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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

All companies want open standards and regulation of the big players when they’re small. All companies want high barriers to entry and regulation of the small players when they’re big.

All companies want what is best for them. In that matter, they differ very little from people.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Corporations are people didn't you know?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not in the country I live, luckily.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't worry. The US will fix that.

[–] reric88@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

America, fk yeah, coming again to save the mother fkn day, yeah

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago
[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 52 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is the year of enshittification, isn't it? Damn every company has pushed the pedal to the metal on it

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago

The cat's out of the bag. Gotta grab everything before folks try to stop them.

[–] tVxUHF@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

It's because interest rates went up and the free VC money tap was turned off so all these companies have to actually turn a profit, so they're squeezing us with every lever they control.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It definitely feels like a transition period for the whole Internet. Tech platforms finally reached their maximum user potential and scale, so now it's time to turn the screws.

They all think we need them, so now we figure out if they're right.

[–] grooving@lemmy.studio 3 points 10 months ago

They weren't. Source: time traveler from the future

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I used to give Google money for services (Drive and YouTube), but I've already stopped doing that because of their evil ways. This just hammers it home that much more.

Edit: The shitty part is what a cool company it used to be. And to watch it destroy itself like this is just sad.

[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is my biggest complaint. They were the best way to access the sum of all human knowledge. Now I NEVER find things relevant to my search, just things that can be sold to me. Things like the “-“ character no longer work. I still get the excluded term in top results. It garbage now and everyone at google is to blame not just the executives.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 10 months ago

I took my money from YouTube and started giving it to Kagi. 🙂👍

[–] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, this is about what I expect from Google nowadays. It's surprising when they manage to live up to the "Don't be Evil" motto they used to have.

[–] Luke_Fartnocker@lemm.ee 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's a reason they got rid of that motto.

[–] dan@upvote.au 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They never got rid of it though. I don't understand why people keep repeating this. See the final paragraph here: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They might as well have though 🙃

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

don't be evil and if you see something, speak up

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+whistleblower+fired

Oh really Google?

[–] Jummit@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's double speak. The translation is "We are evil and if you say something about what you see, we will silence you.".

[–] Luke_Fartnocker@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, that's the government's stance also.

[–] Jummit@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you beginning to see things more clearly now?

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[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on your definition of "evil", I guess.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Lol, right? Bit of a slippery slope over at the ol search and advertising factory.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They removed it from the main body as like, an organizing principle. and left it in only one sentence at the end. https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 10 months ago

Sure, that's different to totally removing it though.

[–] Luke_Fartnocker@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I heard several news stories stating that they had, but I guess that's my fault for believing the news. I just assumed they would get something right eventually.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago

Expect this and they killing some of their products.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's-not-corruption-if-it's-law approach?

[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s a form of regulatory capture and is taught is all business schools.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

At this point what they learn in business schools is the full bestiary of legal and illegal tricks and scams you can use to extract money from us cattle and contribute as little as possible to the upkeep :(

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Regulatory capture seems about on par for Google these days. I suppose I'll be switching back to OnePlus for Android devices; that'll be about it for Google stuff in my home.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Suddenly, I miss the old days of Android. I suppose it's back to CyanogenMod or whatever it is these days

[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Direct replacement for Cyanogen would be Lineage. There are dozens of decent ROMs to try though.

I still opted for iOS in the end. As much shit as Apple pulls, they did 6 year software updates when only flagship Androids got 3 and they aren't generally trying to dominate the Internet.

[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nobody outside a select few know the real dirt inside the proprietary code that Apple puts out. Open source is the only truth that you can see for yourself. Apple is the antithesis of open source.

[–] winky88@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Open source is only as useful as the contributors and reviewers. Finding things after the fact helps noone.

People need to stop revering open source as the solution to humanity's problems and treat it as a useful tool, nothing more.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

You are correct it is only a tool, sadly it is the only viable tool tho

[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

You’re right.

I like to peruse code and have read a lot of it from the sources that make it available. It’s not always the languages I know but even then I can get the idea of what most of it is doing. There are some code bases that are too big for any one person to fully comprehend. That said, I think the only way for one to be confident in open source is to read it yourself which is a problem for most as coding knowledge is not common combine with the size of some.

So it’s always going to be trusting trust for most people. The fact that it is open source and makes available the code for review limits malice to a much greater degree than proprietary ever will.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I know, but as a software engineer, I just hate reading through other people's code and I don't have time for tinkering anymore. Apple's ecosystem is convenient for me and that matters more now. Used to care more of course.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Running it now it is great.

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 20 points 10 months ago
[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Everyone seems to be missing an obvious detail- there was a related and even more dangerous piece of legislation reintroduced recently. It's known as the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), and that would have immense impacts on Google's (specifically, YouTube's) operations.

This is an example of them trying to claim the other bill isn't needed, because they can self-regulate. You'll notice how this also purports to protect kids, but in a way that is much easier and cheaper for Google to implement.

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