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[–] moosepuggle@startrek.website 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is awesome! Now the IRS just needs to send me my already completed taxes that I just verify, sign, and return, like they do in Sweden.

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

But... why doesn't anyone think of the millionaires :(

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that work for businesses and investments? In the UK I don’t have to do anything for taxes with my job, but if the investments in a rental property, or something like that, are over £4000 I have to do the forms.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They give you something to sign. For the majority of people, they just say "Yeah, sounds about right" and they confirm it.

For people with added complexities, they'll do what they already currently do and add in the details you're talking about. It's literally win-win all around except for the tax soft company CEOs.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

There's tax preparation software companies here in Sweden too but almost only businesses use them because most individuals don't need it.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Intuit seems to be worried. Shortly after this story was published, Rick Heineman, the company’s communications VP, emailed The Verge with an aggressive statement calling the IRS’s pilot “redundant” and “half-baked.”

“The Direct File scheme is a solution in search of a problem,” he wrote, adding that it could end up “costing billions of dollars in taxpayer money.”

"Yeah you morons! Don't use the free tools that the govt provides you! Pay us to do it!"

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hes literally pointing out the problem with their own product..."redundant","solution in search of problem", "costs taxpayers stupid money".

... dude theres 4 fingers point back at you.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

And the last one is flipping him off.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

In some European countries, paying income tax means that the government sends you a form that is already completely filled out except for your deductions, and you simply verify that it looks good, then you add in whatever deductions you have, and file it.

Because 99% of the work in filing our taxes in America is completely worthless. The government already receives information directly from the same companies who send you all those tax forms. The IRS already knows all the information. Making you input it again is just a way to ensure the maximum number of mistakes.

So the IRS is taking a good first step, but we still have a long way to go to catch up to what people in other countries already have. Instead of making me fill out the forms, and the IRS checks for errors, have the IRS automatically fill out the forms, and I'll check for errors. In a civilized country, this is something that we should already have.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

"According to the IRS, these are the states joining the pilot:

States with state income tax: Arizona, California, Massachusetts, and New York
States without state income tax: Alaska, Florida, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming"

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There was a massive bipartisan (well POTUS and Dems in Congress) push for this in the second half of the Bush Administration. It lost GOP support after the Republican House Caucus turned on Bush for his path to citizenship immigration reform policy. Intuit and its peers have so much money in this and in lobbying.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ugh, another example of government overreach. This is just going to make it harder for me to pretend to do taxes for 6 hours. What, do I have to keep the terms of service open to “read” for 6 hours? Who’s going to believe that?