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[–] mirtuevagnet@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The worst thing is how even 'European brands' like Volvo (in the article's introduction) and Smart are technically Chinese brands.

There's very little choice left already. And then there's the debate on whether you want to own a Musk-controlled alternative.

[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, do you want an SUV? No? Then there's also very little choice except Musk cars or Chinese cars

[–] mirtuevagnet@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Third, if you've experienced several major failures on a Stellantis EV and want another power train... Only half of what was left is still there to choose from. The west needs to step up their game.

I find it interesting by the way, that the Venn diagram of people who care about the environment and people who don't care about China has such a large overlap.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Europe vs Europeans, the eternal battle

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

China will happily impose tariffs on imported goods when ever they feel they should.

Maybe the countries in Europe should do the same.

[–] schizoidman@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Europe already has a 10% tariff on cars imported from China. Furthermore China is the 3rd largest market for EU car exports

https://www.acea.auto/fact/fact-sheet-eu-china-vehicle-trade/

Additional tariff on chinese car imports will have China doing the same on EU cars. Also most EVs in europe use batteries from China from the like of CATL & BYD.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-11/china-s-catl-byd-dominate-ev-battery-market-as-demand-grows#xj4y7vzkg

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

China has a 15% tariff on all cars imported from Europe, plus a “luxury” tax for expensive cars, plus an engine tax, which caps out at 40% for the largest engines. Perhaps Europe should treat China the same way China treats Europe. It’s only fair.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

Thats the current plan. China is obviously crying hard about that but yeah, would be the best solution for now.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] iraq_lobster@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

Reporting and journalism always lag after actual news and sentiment. Polling people about what their future car purchase would be, would be more fitting.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love the price of the Chinese EVs. If I could get a locally made car for a similar price I might be swayed, but not for 20,000 or more extra.

[–] iraq_lobster@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

to be honest better leave it to chinese to build cars, but some argue that there would be some moral issues like being allowed entry to your car only if you approve of chinese invasion of Taiwan or something smh. Morals cost money i guess