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[–] ech@lemm.ee 110 points 11 months ago (2 children)

5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

[–] MrMusAddict@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (10 children)

In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing "missing" is the definition of which qualities you shouldn't discriminate against. But that's now generalized into "groups of people".

I still can't discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can't discriminate against "pineapple on pizza eaters".

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Good. Because it's fucking delicious and I don't care what the internet says. We all loved it in the 90s, and nothing has changed. It's still delicious, we just do less coke now.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Obligatory pizza related chime in. You fuck with jalapenos on that sexy pineapple pizza?

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Pineapple pairs the best with spicy pizzas, I always add it as an extra.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

You heretic! I want you to know that if I could discriminate against you for putting pineapple on pizza, I absolutely would!

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 11 months ago

What about people who don't eat pizza crust?

[–] Xylinna@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love some pineapple pizza!

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Some day we will eradicate your kind

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (7 children)

As it is worded you can't discriminate against nazis and racists either.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You can discriminate all you want, you just can't harass, bully, violate privacy or threaten violence.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By my reading of it, you can still discriminate against pineapple pizza eaters, or any other group whatsoever, you just can't harass, bully, violate their privacy or threaten them with violence. Which is fine by me, if someone wants to make a community only for ginger haired people and ban anyone they think isn't naturally ginger, that's their perogative.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That was my takeaway, too, and I think it's positive. The nice thing is, if it turns out that the policy fosters behavior that's bad for the broader community, they can change it.

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[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 5 points 11 months ago

Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that's already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?

[–] Geert@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

OP completely ignoring 5.0.1

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Well they banned me for saying I don't like ads and called it harassment. They have no idea what they are doing and are not fit to be admins of anything.

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[–] InternetTubes@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Seriously, this is the least of its problems, but it certainly hints at them: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit

Basically, they don't even follow the examples they set in their Terms of Service and will not only ban but purge your entire comment account on a whim because they didn't like the criticism they said they were open to on a post stating that "users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World." There's no doubt, they were pretty clear they considered the criticism "disagreeing with the terms of service".

Create your user on another instance and save yourself the surprise of encountering admins who abuse their power on a whim. That can be your entire account history down the drain, and the number of comments or the age of the account won't matter to them.

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

This is exactly what I experienced when I was part of their top moderator and ban discussion discord channels. They would regularly ban people for little to no reason and then laugh about it and then realize they need to come up with reasons after the fact. This is also how they deal with defederation. They had defederated an instance more than once prior to having any concrete reasons to do so. They operate on gut feeling and disregard their own rules and ToS on the regular.

Not even Reddit is so unprofessional.

[–] InternetTubes@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'm really getting the feeling they are just trying to bury it and ignore it. I was having trouble accessing the modlog, but when I was able to, they seemed to have gone through the effort to eliminate a lot of the entries, which included my account purge, ban, and ban reason. They still haven't even bothered to answer the ticket I put up on tickets.mastodon.world, maybe I'll add a screenshot to that later to show the ticket status and the time it has spent as unanswered. No admin has replied to me directly, and the closest I've seen any admin reply on the issue is to criticize the kbin.social instance as reliable because of the criticism they get on them.

The real problem is this is being done in bad faith, and if that's their core drive, then the only thing they'll do in the future is make-up better sounding excuses to cover their asses.

[–] Jok3r@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the modlog federated to all instances and impossible to delete?

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[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Literally Reddit 2.0, but with a ~~F~~OSS coat of paint.

Lmao, what a shithole.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even after moving here FROM Reddit, I can't stand the Redditors here

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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Have you asked the admins/mods of lemmy.world about this before posting this?

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

What were the old rules?

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