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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How about 100 billion to Americans struggling or cancel some student loans. We can't have affordable healthcare. But we can keep sending billions to other country.

[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about you tax billionaires and do both.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's ideal but if we can only have one, this is by far the less popular of the options

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It is not about the money Fred. If they wanted to, they would find the money - politicians always do. The only time when there is no money available is when they don’t want to do a certain „project“

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would cover about 5% of all student loan debt.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What's the difference between a billion and a trillion?

About a trillion.

Current US student debt: $1.77 trillion.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden: "Hey! Stop the genocide of those Palestinians!"

Also Biden: "By the way, here's $10 billion"

[–] wolf6152@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100 billion. One hundred billion dollars.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article said most will go to Ukraine, with $10 billion for Israel.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

it should all go to Ukraine in my opinion

[–] wolf6152@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

This report says $40 billion of the $100 billion. The dollar amount doesn’t matter. At the end of the day the US doesn’t have a nationwide healthcare system and 18% of the population is in some sort of housing insecurity.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-expected-seek-60b-ukraine-aid-israel-100b-funding-request-rcna121095

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Melkath@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He is fucking funding Israel but can't make student loan forgiveness or covid relief a thing.

I fucking hate The Party...

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He had a student loan forgiveness program last year that Republicans blockaded...

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

No, no, shh, everything is biden's fault and we are all going to throw a tantrum about it

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't it convenient how that's always the case.

The Party is The Party. It never changes. And people keep voting for them.

ROCK THE VOTE! MTV told me it does something so it must be true!

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gerrymandering in 2010 fucked this country bad, mate. The only thing that can fix it is a massive amount of people voting to overcome the Gerrymandering.

It's working. 2022 was supposed to be a "Massive Red Wave" they barely won the House and lost the Senate.

Register to vote, get everyone you know to register, and vote. Don't let anyone tell you it's meaningless.

If it wasn't, they wouldn't try as hard as they do to stop you from doing it.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, and if we do so and cause a "Massive Blue Wave" we can see wonderful things! Like more tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars being sent to Israel to terrorize and murder Palestinian civilians!

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't need the more. You can type it "Like tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars being sent to Israel..."

Maybe we will, maybe we won't.

Looks like to me that although we have pledged 10 billion to Israel, it would be on a tight leash with many caveats attached. Biden did get both Israel and Egypt to allow aid in to the people of Gaza. Ol' Diamond Joe was working that Scranton charm.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mental gymnastics.

Dear God, the aggressive mental gymnastics.

[–] bibliotectress@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

bOtH pArTiEs ArE the SaMe

Please for the love of Jebus, look at voting records of both parties. They're very, very different. I can't believe with access to all of this info at your fingertips, you're still trying to tell people that both parties are the same and voting does nothing. Mind-blowing.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I'm betting this person isn't American at all. Anyone who isn't a blind partisan hack can see the stark difference in the two parties. It's fun that they brought up the supermajority that Obama had for about a year that was used to forge the ACA (which Lieberman fucked up on behalf of the insurance industry) and promptly lost in the 2010 election where the Republicans gerrymandered everything six ways from Sunday. Oh, well.

#register, get everyone you know to register, and vote Republicans out next year.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

So back to my points above.

When the Democrats had the supermajority, they codified Roe v Wade, right?

That voting record really makes me eat my words.

What about a sitting Democrat condemning the baseless murder of thousands of people a day.

The Democrat was against that and didn't just send 50 billions of dollars to fund a terrorist state to buy bombs from the American war machine, right?

Silence yourself.

[–] reallynotnick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The SAVE plan is a huge improvement for addressing student debt long term and they are still perusing other means for loan forgiveness.

30+ years of voting for change, only to be massively outvoted by partisans and morons every single time.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

The parties, because both are shit

[–] Surp@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct your self. We fucking all hate Republicans and Democrats.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Republicans and Democrats. The Party.

[–] Surp@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotta say it the long way or else!

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Nope.

Refuse to act like they are different things.

[–] dick_stitches@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In case anyone is wondering, that’s $300 for every man, woman, and child in the United States. Not just tax payers, every single person

[–] sygnius@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Or about $12 for every single person in the entire world.

On a separate note, war machines are very expensive and definitely overpriced.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If my government could just give every American just 0.0000005% of that most people would be in a mich better place economically and mentally in this country.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

About 300 million US citizens so that's $333. Less than the stimulus checks the first 2 years of covid

[–] nakal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The problem is always that we small people never have the big picture of such things. Sure, 100 billion is much, but one never gives money for free. There is something about it that will give USA as a country a huge advantage.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Give everyone 5k? Like more Biden bucks?

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