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“there is growing anti-Semitism among enlist (American) troops who are openly stating they are against Israel and do not willing to put their lives on the line for them (the Israelis)”.

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Source for hacked email is official Iranian state media Tasnim.

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Unusually based troop mentality. There's probably an ulterior motive; probably heinous racism-- but at least the big colonizers aren't interested in taking up arms for the little colonizers. Why not airdrop every politician who's given money to AIPAC directly over the conflict?

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hard to tell how much is pro-Palestine, how much is actual anti-Semitism, and how much is simple self-preservation/people who actually thought they would be "defending their country" when they joined the National Guard. It's also possible (assuming this is real, of course) that, like many higher-ups, this general does not actually have his finger on the pulse of the people under him. If he does, we don't know if this is localized to his troops or present more broadly.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I know nothing but I get the impression that some of it is just a lack of investment in "protecting" some foreign country they have little connection to.

[–] juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Given that most right-wing Americans are extremely pro-Israel, and the military recruits largely from the right, there's a high chance that "anti-Semitism" in this context means "not wanting to die in the Middle East for some other country's interests."

"Anti-Semitism" in American political rhetoric tends to be just a code word for "not supporting the most militant wing of the Zionists."

[–] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Honestly most of the troops are there for the free college, they wouldn’t have been able to get otherwise.

[–] comradeRichard@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So any resistance to fight on the side of apartheid is straight antisemitism? Not wanting to fight against a Semite people? Got it 🙄

[–] comradeRichard@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago

In all fairness I don't doubt that we have total Nazis in the military. But I also believe there's intentional disregard for any other reason to not want to go Bring Democracy™️

[–] Bobby_DROP_TABLES@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it's the US military so I'm gonna bet that it's actually antisemitism. I doubt any of them like Muslims enough to be pro-Palestine either.

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

The military is a snapshot of a certain younger portion of the US population. AFAIK support for Israel is down across the younger population as a whole, so that's reflected in the military.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tend to agree, but the military is younger & browner than the rest of the country, so I wouldn't completely rule it out either.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Plus pro-Palestine sentiment is decently common among libs, and while the military skews right there are plenty of lib idealists who join.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I thought USA numbubweiner 💪😂👌

[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I think we may all be surprised, way more of my coworkers were pro palestine than i thought (though perhaps they just felt squeamish arguing with me being part palestinian). I also spraypainted some pro palestinian graffiti on a building downtown and...nobody has covered it, which was surprising (when i did some BLM graffiti in 2016 that shit was blacked out within 12 hours). Anecdotal evidence but just my take

[–] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

when /pol/ ideology plays on palestine side