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Chinese War Simulation Finds Top US Carrier Group Could Be ‘Destroyed With Certainty’ (sputnikglobe.com)
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"War games conducted by Chinese researchers found the US military’s most prized aircraft carrier could be reliably sunk with relative ease in the event of a hot war in the South China Sea.

A volley of hypersonic missiles could reliably sink the US military’s most powerful aircraft carrier group in a potential conflict, according to war game simulations carried out by a team of Chinese military planners.

Using 24 of their most advanced anti-ship missiles, Chinese forces consistently destroyed a carrier fleet led by the USS Gerald R. Ford over the course of 20 mock battles in simulations which were run on a war game platform employed by the People’s Liberation Army.

The basic principle underlying the exercise was to be “lenient with the enemy and strict with oneself,” Cao explained. As the Hong Kong-based outlet explained, “during the simulation, the PLA used its sea-based surveillance network to detect and identify the US carrier group before firing eight of the less-reliable hypersonic missiles simultaneously from southern and central sites in China.” Though “some of the missiles were intercepted, the attack depleted the US fleet’s SM-3 munitions, paving the way for the PLA to launch “eight of its more accurate hypersonic missiles from northern and western China, with four focused on the aircraft carrier while the others targeted the destroyers,” the outlet noted. “After the attack, four ships survived from the blue [US] team, with the destroyers having the most remaining, on average.” A “mop-up” operation with six of the less accurate hypersonic missiles was able to dispatch with the remaining vessels, the research paper determined. After the simulation was run 20 times to allow for different variables which could affect the outcome of the engagement, the team’s strategy was ultimately able to eliminate an average of 5.6 out of 6 surface vessels – effectively meaning the “total destruction” of the carrier group. The release of a paper detailing the war game in May marked “the first time the results of simulated hypersonic strikes against a US carrier group have been made public” by China’s military."

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[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While I'd probably take with a grain of salt the public boasts of any countries military about how well it did in simulations against other militaries, there is this whole thing where the US did their own wargames and that ended very quickly because the simulated enemy just used a bunch of cruise missiles and took out their fleet. They also just restarted the game and made both teams follow a script this time. It seems to be rather contested and obviously more complicated than that but still, seems familiar.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

Yeah but this conclusion is consistent with US war game sims where their carriers get sunk.

On the first U.S. turn, the players lost an entire aircraft carrier, though it was on the board from the “baseline” opening and not that team’s choice to have it where it was located. In a version earlier in the week, the United States lost 700 aircraft over the three-week battle.

For example, in the midst the Aug. 5 war game, the U.S. aircraft carriers proved too vulnerable.

“We took a giant face shot on our first turn when our carrier died,” Dougherty said.

“That always happens,” Mark Cancian said.

An aircraft carrier that started play a little too close to Chinese weapons systems was lost early. Other carriers hightailed it out of Chinese weapons ranges but were then ineffective in providing support.

[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

In case youre wondering why the US feels compelled to send a second carrier group to Palestine, guess who has dozens and dozens of hypersonic missiles 🤭🇮🇷 🤭

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Tel Aviv in 400 seconds"

[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mashallah

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2020/01/31/with-laser-weapons-coming-the-us-navys-newest-super-carrier-has-space-and-power-to-spare/

Clark has argued for years that the Navy needs to get away from trying to shoot down missiles with missiles because a saturation attack from Russia, China, Iran, North Korea or anyone else who might have cause to attack a U.S. Navy ship could force a cruiser or destroyer to expend all its missiles and still not have defeated the threat.___

A gravity bomb straight down on it's flight deck is all it takes to make the carrier irrelevant. Fuck up it's flight deck, the screws, rudder, ect. Planes need speed to take off. The F35 is a damned laughing stock so good luck with those anyways.

I remember not being able to visit Australia when I was in because the jellyfish density was clogging the condensers of ships, shutting down the coolant system of the reactors.

I'd worry a bit about the CWIS cannons, but those have limited range and use. Great for pulverizing seagulls from a mile out though.

[–] beautiful_boater@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

rosa-shining Millennium Challenge Rising rosa-shining

[–] jlyws123@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The media in Hong Kong and Singapore can read Chinese, this Hong Kong media only translated an article and then transferred it as a big news.