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Utah sues TikTok, alleging it lures children into addictive and destructive social media habits::Utah has become the latest state to sue TikTok, alleging the social media company is “baiting” children into addictive and unhealthy habits.

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[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 103 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, they’re not wrong but Instagram, Facebook, etc should also be in that lawsuit.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Because Meta ain’t Chinese and makes large donations to both political parties.

[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet they're losing a lot of their kids from their religion because of what's on there. That was my immediate thought.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's possible for more than one thing to be bad, we don't have to pick just one of the two.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"worse" generally means more bad than another thing that is also bad.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also implies that one (the worst one) deserves more attention. In this case we should probably be paying attention to both.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mm no, they just said it was worse. You're reaching.

[–] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they said it was "far worse," which definitely implies a ranking of how bad they perceive the respective issues.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's possible for more than one thing to be bad, we don't have to pick just one of the two.

This is what they said; they implied the root comment was saying that two things couldn't be bad or only one could be solved. But it didn't. He said, paraphrasing, "there are two issues and I find this one to be far worse".

Ranking issues in terms of how bad they are seems a fairly normal thing to do. It also implies that there is more than one.

[–] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

There are probably more tiktok-users than mormons though, so I'd argue tiktok is the bigger problem

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will they apply same logic to….lets say a 200 billion dollar hedge fund disguised as a ~~cult~~ religion?

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not sure if referencing Crypto scams, MLMs, or the Mormon church. All are common in Utah

[–] shitzngigglz@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure if referencing Crypto scams, MLMs, or the Mormon church

Not op but, "yes."

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Good. Now sue the rest of the social media companies for the same thing.

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"We're going to be the ones who indoctrinate your kids" (Utah was founded by Mormons, oops I mean The Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Gotta use the actual name.)

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't take issue with this if X, Meta (for Instagram,) and Google (for YouTube Shorts) were getting sued as well. But I don't think TikTok should be singled out.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

They should treat these social media companies like they did the silk road creator.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


TikTok lures children into hours of social media use, misrepresents the app’s safety and deceptively portrays itself as independent of its Chinese parent company, ByteDance, Utah claims in the lawsuit.

Arkansas and Indiana have filed similar lawsuits while the U.S. Supreme Court prepares to decide whether state attempts to regulate social media platforms such as Facebook, X and TikTok violate the Constitution.

Research has shown that children who spend more than three hours a day on social media double their risk of poor mental health, including anxiety and depression, the lawsuit alleges.

The lawsuit seeks to force TikTok to change its “destructive behavior” while imposing fines and penalties to fund education efforts and otherwise address damage done to Utah children, Reyes said.

They will impose a digital curfew on people under 18, which will require minors to get parental consent to sign up for social media apps and force companies to verify the ages of all their Utah users.

They also require tech companies to give parents access to their kids’ accounts and private messages, raising concern among some child advocates about further harming children’s mental health.


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[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They will impose a digital curfew on people under 18, which will require minors to get parental consent to sign up for social media apps and force companies to verify the ages of all their Utah users.

This is laughable. I played this game before with my own kids. I would find their new Myspace account and have it removed. They would just go to a friends house whose parents didn't care and sign up for a new one. It was a back and forth. Then my now-ex started arguing with me about it once the kids started whining about it. Now they are grown and can do whatever they want. It was a battle I was never going to win, but if Utah thinks they can manage this, I would love to watch. Gonna go make some popcorn.

Trying to split the internet into "adults'" and "children's" sections is never going to work — not without a mandatory ID system that nobody wants — nobody who isn't attached to a spy organization or totalitarian regime, at least. You can't treat it like alcohol or tobacco because nobody's giving away alcohol and tobacco for free; we restrict access primarily at the point of sale. There's no point of sale for social media, and no comparable way to restrict it.

However, what you can do is regulate advertising to the point where the dark patterns used by data-harvesting platforms like TikTok, Google, Facebook, etc. are simply not commercially viable. The EU is moving in that direction already.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Utahns are ACTIVELY playing this game with porn sites right now. Curious as to how that’s working for them.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

for some reason I feel like this has no legs