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[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 181 points 11 months ago (12 children)

It's been 17 years since the last election. Assuming only 18 and up could vote, that means only people current around 34 and up could vote. So the bulk of Palestinians didn't even have a chance to vote in that election. Not to mention that they were given the choice between a corrupt faction (Fatah) and a possible less corrupt faction (Hamas).

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 11 months ago

I am so afraid this message is getting lost. There has been a deliberate push to paint this latest incident to be the reason that neighborhoods had to be flattened and civilians slaughtered.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

why can't they hold elections?

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They can. They won't.

Either they're just undemocratic, or they know that the results of elections wouldn't be what they want them to be.

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[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Here here. At least somebody has some fucking balls. Perhaps because it's not a mess they created.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hear, hear, not here, here.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 61 points 11 months ago
[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 33 points 11 months ago (17 children)

Haven’t surveys shown that a majority of Palestinians support Hamas?

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 64 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure but you try being killed and kicked out of your homes. I'm sure you would not like the people who are doing it either. Israel has created this mess.

[–] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

People forget Israel is the one with the power and creating this issue. If Israel actually backs off and treats Palestine as at least human, then I think (and hope) most people will see that Hamas needs to be destroyed as they are a terrorist group.

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[–] desconectado@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you live in a country controlled by a terrorist group that kills anyone who is not their side, and someone goes to your door and asks if you support them... What would you say?

It's easy to dismiss this issue by thinking they have the same freedom of speech as we do in the west, and they can have political opinions without any repercussion.

Same can be said about north Korea.

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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hamas is the only group in this world standing up for the Palestinian people, so I would support them too, we're I locked up in that open air prison, my family and friends being constantly murdered for profit.

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[–] wick@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is Spain offering asylum to Palestinians? Because that's the only thing that will help those people.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago

They have to be able to leave Gaza in order to receive asylum.

Gaza is pretty much an open air prison that you can't really leave all that easily.

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Hamas has done more for Palestinians than all the "aid" ever given by the EU.

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[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hamas have done more for Palestine than anything the EU has ever done

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas has supporters because they are the only one who fight. If tomorrow, Hamas disappears, there will be another group that Palestinians would support and another and another until there are no reasons for the Palestinians to resist

you don't need to like them or anything (this is not liberalism and freedom of association is not real), our morals or opinions can't stop the mechanism that is taking place in the place

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