cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2123619
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Reactionary atheists confuse tf out me, like bro you don't believe in hell or heaven, why are you against men kissing
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They want all of the cultural hegemony and colonialism but without the inconvenient god part.
Exactly that's why the bulk of them went straight to Peterson and his fantastical dragon slaying status quo mythos shit.
The atheist road can either lead someone to Marx or it leads someone to Nietzche.
The atheist road can either lead someone to Marx or it leads someone to Nietzche.
Always relevant:
My first time seeing this. Exactly haha.
Assuming this is the theory reading atheist road, one could become a left Nietzscheian and basically an idealist Marx.
The trouble is consciously rejecting an idea you were raised with doesn't immediately rid you of the various biases that idea instilled in you. And nobody is more susceptible to bias than people who don't think they have any, which describes a lot of people in that sphere. This is where the absurd phrase "culturally Christian" comes from, because they realize the beliefs they were raised with are bullshit, but then they notice that that belief system has all the prejudices that they have (because they were raised with it), so rather than confronting those biases and doing self-crit (emotional self-awareness and humility ew ew gross) they instead just come up with some bizarre twisted rationalization (using FACTS and LOGIC) and accept that. The brain is very good at rationalizations like that and can invent all sorts of convoluted lines of logic if it means fitting in with one's tribe.
I don't say that I'm culturally Christian, because Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on charity and being good
Fair, I just say such because I was raised with specifically the positive aspects of Christian values.
New Atheism is Islamophobic cancer that justifies imperialist aggression in the Middle East.
What if I say that the modern culture of Christianity needs to be destroyed
Totally fair, the bourgeois perversion of Christianity must be destroyed.
Christianity died when they crowned Charlemagne.
Aren't some of the new atheism people transphobic as hell?
If we’re talking about the same atheists that pioneered the anti-SJW movement , then yes 100%.
You say you are "atheist, but culturally christian" because you are agnostic but try to love your neighbor and fight for the poor.
I say such because I don't believe in god but I live in a catholic country that has eight public holidays of religious origin where people don't go to work (I'm just very lazy and every day in which I don't see my boss' face is a wonderful day).
We are NOT the same.
To what extent is New Atheism still a thing? Did the mass of it pipeline to Peterson and various other facts and logic grifts?
That's what it seems like to me. It was very much the same "white dude pseudo-intellectuals pretend they know everything about the world but only push reactionary ideology" as the Peterson, Rogan, etc. bullshit.
its definitely still a thing in some irl spaces actually. i've seen atheist groups irl that will espouse new atheist cringe talking points insulting all religions. they do sometimes go after christians too, at least, but it seems like a lot of what they do is go after islam.
I've never heard of new atheism
It was primarily an Islamophobic movement in the post-Gulf War and 9/11 era.
Some good ones:
- Hidden beneath a superficial rationalism, they provide a seemingly intellectual defense of imperialism, push islamophobia, and use it to create a smokescreen for the injustices of global capitalism. 2,3
It was a short lived thing a decade ago. This is a terrible post.
It's not even a philosophical thing, I just kind of don't want to allow the right - especially American Evangelicals - any control over me. By not partaking in their hierarchies or belief systems I leave them one less avenue of attack.
I do not wish to do the New Atheist thing and harass Muslims as they are not really a threat to me like that