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The House on Saturday approved a “clean” stopgap funding bill to avert a government shutdown, sending the legislation to the Senate for consideration hours before the midnight funding deadline.

The measure would keep the government funded at current spending levels for 45 days and it includes $16 billion in disaster relief — matching the figure the White House included in a supplemental request. It does not include Ukraine aid or border policy changes.

The chamber cleared the stopgap bill in an overwhelmingly bipartisan 335-91 vote hours after Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) rolled out the proposal. One Democrat and 90 Republicans voted against the measure.

The plan marked a stark shift in his posture when it comes to government funding. And it could spell trouble for his Speakership as conservatives heighten their threats to confiscate his gavel.

At the same time, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) announced Senate Republicans would not allow the upper chamber’s bipartisan continuing resolution (CR) to advance, deferring to the House plan.

That proposal would keep the government funded through Nov. 17 and it includes $5.99 billion in disaster relief and $6.15 billion in Ukraine aid.

McCarthy told members of his conference earlier this week that he would not bring the Senate measure to the floor for a vote after a number of conservatives voiced concern with the inclusion of Ukraine funding and the lack of border security provisions. Support for Ukraine has become a hot-button issue in the House GOP conference.

McCarthy bringing a clean stopgap bill to the floor was a departure from his previous stance on government funding.

The Speaker in recent weeks had been pushing his conference to coalesce around a GOP-crafted stopgap bill that includes border security, a move that was designed to give Republicans greater leverage in negotiations with Senate Democrats and the White House. He had brushed aside the possibility of working with Democrats to avert a shutdown, underscoring the importance of getting border security provisions in any funding measure.

But on Friday, a band of 21 conservatives voted down that GOP stopgap bill, leaving McCarthy with few options to avert a shutdown ahead of the looming deadline. Hours after the failed vote, the Speaker floated a “clean” stopgap bill without Ukraine, following through with that idea Saturday morning.

While the Saturday vote brings the country one step closer to averting a shutdown, it also puts McCarthy at a greater threat of losing his gavel. Hard-line Republicans for weeks had been publicly warning that the Speaker could face a vote on his ouster if he worked with Democrats to fund the government.

“If Kevin McCarthy puts a continuing resolution on the floor, it’s going to be shot, chaser; continuing resolution, motion to vacate,” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), one of McCarthy’s foremost adversaries, said earlier this month.

McCarthy, for his part, brushed aside those threats on Saturday.

“If someone wants to remove because I want to be the adult in the room, go ahead and try,” he told reporters.

“But I think this country is too important. And I will stand with our military. I’ll stand with our border agents. I’ll stand with those that have to get their medicine from government as well,” McCarthy added. “I think that’s too important.”

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this include their pay raise?

[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course it does, fuckers.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh cool we all get pay raises? Where's mine?

[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other side of a strike maybe?

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just kidding, I already held my employer hostage for a raise.

Life Pro tip: be the only person that knows how to do a valuable thing. We don't get attaboy raises for existing anymore unfortunately or even cost of living increases it seems.

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Including a nice pay raise for them, bunch of crooks the lot of em

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Holy shit, they actually passed a bipartisan clean stopgap bill at the 11th hour.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Clean". The quotes are crucial because it's actually, y'know, not clean.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Voting in a pay raise for yourself is NOT “clean” IMHO

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Intentional. They stripped out Ukraine finding and gave themselves a raise. Now if the Senate rejects it, the Dems caused the shutdown.

[–] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

He was out of options. He say that the GOP was taking the whole blame and this was the only way to not get totally fucked for at least another 45 days

Thats not what this bill is.

Let's see if they can pass an actual budget before the next deadline.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This bill was controlled by Senate Republicans when McConnell said he wouldn't give cloture to the Senate CR. The big talking point is there is no Ukrainian aid. The argument from GOP Ukraine supporters is this: It’s not worth putting up a fight over $6B of Ukraine funding now, when the White House will ask for a full-year supplemental by the next funding deadline. R’s who back Ukraine believe this is a better time to have that fight.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who else expects Democrats to save him from a motion to vacate?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll save him until the actual budget passes so they can hold him to the commitments from the debt ceiling deal.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can Democrats actually hold him to anything, though?

They'll save him, he'll say "lol thanks suckers" and then what? It's not like Democrats would let him be voted out anyway.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he ever renegs they can go to Gaetz and tell him they'll support his removal now and McCarthy is gone.

If there's something he can get done without Democratic support, he could just do that now, so we know he doesn't have anything he can do without Democrats. So they have leverage to make him do the deal he made, while admitting he needs to get at least half of Republicans on side too per the Hastert Rule (not a real rule but a convention) so it's not like they can make him do ANYTHING. Plenty of Republicans signed up for the deal as already agreed though.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

I'm pessimistic in Democrats ever actually supporting his removal.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

McCarthy needed Dems. He's gone.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm under the impression he only needs a few Republicans to vote with Dems to keep him.

Since he got Republicans to vote for this bill, I think he can do it.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would Dems vote for McCarthy?

[–] harpuajim@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I know he only needs 20 or 30 dems to vote "present" which will lower the bar enough to the point where he will get to keep his job. My guess is that this is the best option for Democrats since they've proven that he's an incredibly ineffective Majority leader.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The chamber cleared the stopgap bill in an overwhelmingly bipartisan 335-91 vote hours after Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) rolled out the proposal.

McCarthy told members of his conference earlier this week that he would not bring the Senate measure to the floor for a vote after a number of conservatives voiced concern with the inclusion of Ukraine funding and the lack of border security provisions.

The Speaker in recent weeks had been pushing his conference to coalesce around a GOP-crafted stopgap bill that includes border security, a move that was designed to give Republicans greater leverage in negotiations with Senate Democrats and the White House.

But on Friday, a band of 21 conservatives voted down that GOP stopgap bill, leaving McCarthy with few options to avert a shutdown ahead of the looming deadline.

While the Saturday vote brings the country one step closer to averting a shutdown, it also puts McCarthy at a greater threat of losing his gavel.

Hard-line Republicans for weeks had been publicly warning that the Speaker could face a vote on his ouster if he worked with Democrats to fund the government.


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