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[–] AdellcomdoisL@beehaw.org 26 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I wondered why I had heard no fanfare or announcements (not even the Steam banner changing, its still Shmup sale up there) but on checking the page this seems to be the Overwatch school of sequel? Just update a current game and put a 2 on it?

Well. On one hand, doesn't seem like it needed fixing (Its not my type of game but its popular enough, certainly more than most other Valve ventures) but also geez. At least artificially pretend its big news.

[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Counter Strike has been the same game for 23 years, basically every new game is an "update". Porting the game to Source 2 is the single biggest thing that has happened to Counter Strike since 2004 when they moved from GoldSrc, so might as well brand it as a new game.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 48 points 11 months ago

I have 4k hours in CSGO alone. Probably 10k hours in the whole series all together. The changes they made are far more significant than an update.

[–] gk99@beehaw.org 29 points 11 months ago

Just update a current game and put a 2 on it?

It was a "ground-up" rebuild on Source 2, so while it carries forward all the CSGO content and aims to "play the same" in terms of movement and gunplay (with the exception of improvements like subtick actions), I'd say it's way more of an actual "2." New engine with all kinds of fancy lighting and other improvements, new assets (including weapon and character models, some of which were still originally in the 2013 CSGO launch), remakes and retouches of maps, vastly improved map-making tools, some nifty accessibility features (your walking sounds appearing on the radar) and quality of life features (selling back misbought items, or the picture-in-picture grenade throw practice camera), and some huge balance changes (games are now shorter, players now need to more strategically choose their weapons, smoke grenades are voxel-based and can be cleared out with gunfire and grenades, skyboxes are now open for grenade tosses, etc.)

It looks the same but with some lighting changes on the surface, but it's actually huge.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Despite some minor changes the game has played fundamentally the same since 1999.

Edit: also CSGO came out 11 years ago, compared to the 6 years between overwatch 1 and 2.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago

Just update a current game and put a 2 on it?

This is how the software engineering industry works. It's actually games that are the outlier here, with their big releases each time a sequel is made.

More visibility would definitely help here though, odd that they don't put a banner on the store given how big of a release this is for many players.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Can people still kick you from matches for being bad at the game? If not I might consider trying it again.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is a kick option, yes.

Just use a name like noob be gentle. I hate it when ppl kick in casual because someone plays badly.

[–] TrustingZebra@lemmy.one 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That name is guaranteed to get you kicked.

[–] mihnt@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

What about expertplskik?

[–] HeavyCream@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, they can at least call a vote.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

Welp, have to pass then, pisses me off way too much when that happens.

[–] azezeB@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and that's the reason why I play it only with 2+ friends, it's a completely different game this way.

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I will spend hours and hours playing against expert bots until I can consistently be at the top of the leader board. Then I be ready to play against humans and rank at the bottom.

I have been playing CS since 1.6 and every time a I take a break I have to start all over again.

[–] CrabLord@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

I definitely hear you on this one. I stopped playing for a few years and I dropped from LEM to Silver 4. The skill drop-off is immense!

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bots seem to be set to "Drunk and Sleepy". Changing bot_difficulty does not seem to make a difference.

[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much, they are good for target practice and that's about it

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

bot_difficulty 5

custom_bot_difficulty 5

Those seem to work. The standard 1-3 make no difference that I can tell. They are still very very dumb, but at least they do not hesitate 5 sec to pull the trigger and can hit a target.

[–] Littleborat@feddit.de 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So if I own CSGO can I just run an update and have the new game?

[–] Phunter@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago
[–] Skiptrace@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago

Well, seeing as how CSGO is F2P, everyone owns it. And, CSGO itself is gone, it's now just CS2.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I am playing now. Looks great. Just shot through smoke which was cool.

[–] SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I saw some streamer playing and legit thought "That's CSGO with Valorant saturation on"

Am I just too ignorant or did they really make everything boosted saturation?

[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago

This is just CS:GO finally evolving from the CoD brown-tinged visuals of 2007-2013

[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No? There's more color, but it's reasonable CSGO always had a kind of dull color grading/textures, though updates changed that A bit later on. A lot of players turn up saturation themselves for the (at least perceived) benefit of visibility so that might be what you saw, you also see CS players playing in 1024x768 stretched still because that's how they always played before.

They definitely gave it that trendy sunny slightly hazy day look. I'm not complaining it's a much nicer aesthetic than the original release of CSGO which felt like a Seattle afternoon in the middle of the desert.

[–] OfficialThunderbolt@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

...except on macOS, apparently.

I wonder if the game works if I try playing it using the GPTK.