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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 107 points 1 year ago (2 children)

can we just please get some normal, boring, safe, efficient trains that actually function instead of this gizmo bullshit?

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Right? I'd love some decent trainage in the US.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But when I inevitably win the lottery and become a billionaire overnight I won't want to share a filthy train car with other people, I'll want flying taxis that charge $100 a kilometer.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is why first class wagons exist

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] bender@insaneutopia.com 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Joby’s production aircraft is designed to transport a pilot and four passengers at speeds of up to 200 miles (321.87 kilometers) per hour, with a maximum range of 100 miles (160.93 kilometers). I

Back in my day we called these contraptions “helicopters”

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

And those were considered for use as "flying taxis" and they failed for the same reason these will: Flying and landing in cities is dangerous, which is why airports are built very far away.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's also expensive as fuck.

Even if you have electric flying helicopters, the rotary component makes them very expensive to maintain as blades and components need to be replaced sometimes every 500 hours or less and require constant safety checks and inspections.

Imagine how many taxi cabs have a malfunction of some sort every year. Now imagine that taxi cab crashing into a building or crowded street if it had a malfunction instead of just cruising to a halt on the side of the road.

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[–] Addition@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'll never understand the eternal hype around "flying cars". Fuckers out here can hardly drive on a 2d road. Now you want to introduce a third axis on them?

I guarantee that if the general public gets their hands on a real "flying car", it'll take about 2 weeks before some drunk idiot commits a mini 9/11.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only way flying cars should ever get implemented is if they are 100% automatic.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Create automatic taxi (impossible)

  • Create flying taxi (impossible)

Okay, new plan!

  • Create automatic flying taxi (should be possible in the next 5-15 years)
[–] pokemaster787@ani.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not saying it's a good idea, but a lot of the complexity surrounding automated driving is actually because you are confined to a 2D space and have to follow roads/road signs. When you can just lift off and adjust verticality to avoid objects all you really need is a way to detect and avoid obstacles and some navigation logic. Landing is probably the most difficult part to automate.

Not super easy but it is actually easier than self-driving cars (which is why almost all of a commercial flight is running on autopilot)

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Right? Cool, now the road goes over your house! Along with the Amazon drones.

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Jesus fuck. It's just like some auto execs to pull shit like this. Completely fuck up transportation infrastructure on the ground to your own benefit and everyone else's detriment, then use your winnings to build taxis that can fly over the carnage you've wrought. We are living the Cyberpunk future.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck that just built trams and trains

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

there are literally rails behind my house why is there not a tram on it to go across town idk. Cargobonly passes once every hour lmao

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Fucking waste of resources.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

We already have "flying cars". They're called helicopters, and you need training and a license to fly them. Just like you'll need for this thing and just like you need for a normal road-going car.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

So, we're just gonna burn more fuel. Wtf. We need legislative change to prevent shit like this.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Around the world, electric vertical takeoff and landing, or eVTOL aircraft are entering the mainstream, though questions remain about noise levels and charging demands.

Still, developers say the planes are nearing the day when they will provide a wide-scale alternative to shuttle individual people or small groups from rooftops and parking garages to their destinations, while avoiding the congested thoroughfares below.

Joby’s decision to locate its first scaled manufacturing facility at a 140-acre (57-hectar) site at Dayton International Airport delivers on two decades of groundwork laid by the state’s leaders, Republican Lt. Gov.

Its financial package wasn’t the largest, but the chance to bring the operation to the birthplace of aviation — with a workforce experienced in the field — sealed the deal, he said.

Bevirt said operations and hiring will begin immediately from existing buildings near the development site, contingent upon clearing the standard legal and regulatory hurdles.

Toyota, a long-term investor, worked with Joby in 2019 to design and to successfully launch its pilot production line in Marina, California.


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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ohio is also the state which has the highest per-capita production of astronauts, with only New York and California producing more in terms of raw numbers.

I wonder, what is it about Ohio that encourages people to flee the planet with such zeal?

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ya, it's almost like once you've seen Ohio you have this urge to get off the ground. The planet even, if possible. You no longer want to touch anything else attached to Ohio.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’ve clearly never been to Cleveland.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Considering it has a scatological sexual act named after it, do I really want to?

I'm hoping regulations get in the way of this. The FAA is barely comfy letting people fly a drone beyond line of sight with a waiver, fully automated flight for untrained passengers is going to take some doing.

[–] Hardeehar@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wasn't there some controversy with who had the first flying machine? There was supposedly some guy in CT that flew an aircraft before the brothers?

EDIT - found this article Three states bicker over 'first in flight' claim

[–] Syringe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm making this claim based on the Wright Bros exhibit at the Smithsonian Air and space museum...

One of the genius things that they did was invent scaled testing (I'm not 100% sure I can make this claim, but I'd be happy to learn it I was wrong). Rather than building the device and testing it, which killed a lot of people through history, they built miniature components and tested them individually to prove concepts, and THEN built their production version in iterations.

Like, to test airfoil designs, they built a table top sized wind tunnel, put a miniature airfoil in, and evaluated its performance, and made determinations for the final product. This SIGNIFICANTLY lowered design costs and prototyping at the time.

This also happened to result in an airplane.

[–] Hardeehar@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Probably helped lower some risk, too.

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Go to India and they will tell you that Right Brothers stole an Indian genius sketch and killed him