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[–] Waker@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Can we stop posting political memes?... It's getting annoying.

[–] Levsgetso@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not we, this guy is the only person posting these political memes here. I hate blocking users but posting multiple memes a day trying to push your agenda is pretty annoying.

[–] Waker@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, I just noticed his instance. You're probably correct!, great tip.

[–] theEmeraldM@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah. Although I like socialism and partially agree with the meme, I'm really tired of constantly seeing political memes, so at this point I just down vote any political meme that I see lol

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The worst thing for the socialist movement are other socialists

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[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The problem isn't with capitalism but the people that take advantage of it.

You can take advantage of socialism too.

~~tho i wouldn't mind me some socialism~~

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally this.

In any system their will be abuse, from hacking in video games to corruption in politics.

The thing is though I'd rather we be corrupt and feeding/housing those who need it rather than be corrupt and not doing those things

[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So let’s pick a system that doesn’t incentivize corruption. If it’s going to happen, let’s not encourage it.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But what does that look like and how do you establish it without accidentally murdering millions.

The wheels of history are lubricant for the wheels of history, evil shit but true. Whenever we want to move history we need to always consider who is being harmed.

Our system sucks but turning it off will inevitably cause a shock of some degree and that harms people.

Literally a kobayashi maru

[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an idiotic argument. So what? Should we stop trying to progress at all as a society because it could hurt people? Removing this exploitive system will help more than it’ll harm. No contest.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago

this is a real argument lol

[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. Capitalism inherently exploits the working class. Exploitation is not inherent to socalism. Both system are corruptible, but capitalism starts out that way.

[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exploitation is inherent to any system in which there is an established hierarchy, which necessarily includes any and all systems in which there is institutionalized authority, entirely regardless of the economic system in place.

Leaving institutionalized authority in place and merely switching from a capitalist to a socialist system only changes the specific hoops the exploiters have to jump through to gain and maintain privilege - instead of gaining wealth and using it to buy political power, they have to, and do, gain political power and use it to commandeer wealth.

If you want to fight exploitation, you need to go all the way to the real source and fight the institutionalization of authority.

Any time anyone has the power to rule, you axiomatically have a ruling class.

[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Libertarian socalism. I 100% agree. All unjustifiable hierarchies must go. Including all that are established by violence and coercion.

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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It'll work this time, guys! Communism won't mean dictatorship, guys! I promise that there won't be economic stagnation this time, guys! Trust me! I know this, because I believe it!

[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dictatorship bad but not bad when companies do it.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have we tried maybe...NOT putting anyone in charge of everyone and THEN trying socialism/communism? There are other theories we haven't explored yet...🏴

And we just may be at the point where technology can make this happen.

Just take a look at the self-organizing nature of the open source software industry. No one player has absolute control of anything, yet it thrives.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

That's basically the underpants gnomes theory of politics.

  1. Communism but no leadership!

  2. ???????

  3. Utopia!!!!!!!! Don't ask me how to get there

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As opposed to the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie that we have now?

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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