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Germany refuses to take any more EU migrants as boats forced to queue in Italian docks (www.telegraph.co.uk)
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[–] LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile Germany has a massive labor shortage in the services and skilled craftsman industries....

Been trying to find a contractor and electrician to do a heat pump install for over 6 months. All the stores near me are in need of additional labor to stay open, the restaurants struggle a bit to keep people...

Edit: I know this is hard for Germans to grasp, but electrician and plumbers is one three month school away from trained. Apprenticeships artificially limit the supply here. Any migrant can be brought up to speed in those skills.

[–] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think the people coming in are skilled labour for electricians and plumbers.

[–] Destraight@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

I guess Germany knows it's limit. Nothing wrong with that

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club -3 points 5 months ago

Migrants boost the GDP of Germany, do they not know it is in their interest to have them?

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good, if we'd take them the next election would go straight to AFD.

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah right. If we all act like the afd wants us to act, they don't need to be in power. Nice logic.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not acting like afd to not take any more illigal immigrants, it would be if we put them in camps together with all Muslims and ship them back. Wich we don't do.

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No human being is illegal.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A human by itself not, but they did something illegal. Like illigal drug dealers vs pharmacists, one is legal the other isn't.

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's STILL not good, as you stated. Not good in any way. Do you know, what it does mean, if other countries don't take the people arriving at the south coasts of Europe?

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about not letting them arrive?

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I guess empathy isn't a thing anymore.

BTW: pushbacks are often murder

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not our problem and if the'd just stop trying to enter EU illegally we wouldn't have the problem.

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Who cares about dying people, we could save.

What an utterly egoistic and unhuman point of view.

I bet my ass you would be under the first waves of people to flee / migrate if there would be major crisis in your land with no forseable end for the next 20 years.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can't save them, we have our own problems and if its not politically possible, than that's it. Otherwise we risk far right gaining more and more voters.

And no. Id rather bite the dust than leave my house. Also, if everyone runs away there is of course no future.

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can not only save them (that's what asylum stands for) we also should not actually kill them by sending them back.

Also you shouldn't be afraid of the far right. You actually have much in common.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, we can't afford to give them asylum, we have shit loads of problems with those that are already here.

You haven't awnserd to the point of them leaving when they could fix stuff.

We send them back to countries considered safe.

And no, i don't have much in common with right wing for saying that illigal immigrants are illegal. We have borders for a reason.

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What problem do we actually have that cannot be solved anymore by taking them in. What problem do you have, by letting them in.

And no, those people fleeing can't solve the problems of their own region. Otherwise they wouldn't leave their home. Also: Many problem those country have are not home made, but do origin in countries like the USA, Germany and many other rich countries.

And yes: Your world view is very far right. Accept it or not, I don't care as I might not change your non altruistic thinking.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Arguing with someone like you is like arguing with a wall, your ideals can't be changed and your grasp on reality is barely existing.

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You have too much "humanity" to even criticize the humans.

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

What a nonsense phrase. Also pretty late to the party.

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club -5 points 5 months ago

What is so special about being a human? What religion you believe in?