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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except I don’t have to go to a concert. If I don’t have shelter I’m pretty fucked.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Yup! Both are leeches on society, but one is sucking from the jugular and the other is sucking from an extremity. That being said they are both sucking the same blood.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 43 points 1 year ago

several bootlickers are typing

[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Landlords = Property scalpers

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Landlords do provide services: property maintenance and not having to worry about selling the place when you leave. Are landlords paid way too much for these services? Hell yes. That's more an issue of inadequate supply though, in my opinion.

Similarly, ticket scalpers provide a service, but not to concert goers. Scalpers absorb risk on behalf of the venue/performer. That's why venues, who could absolutely shut down scalpers, don't. Still scummy as hell, but don't absolve the venue of guilt too.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bruh the water fountain in the gym at my apartment complex has been broke for over a year, with 2 different owners who have both refused to fix it lmao. They provide a service that should be a human right, and i fail to see how increasing the supply would mediate this exploitation of something people need to survive. Lol

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Ours just has a sign that says "taken offline due to covid" and the gym was down for maintenance for a month and they only fixed one out of like seven issues.

These broken items have been broken for three years but the leasing office claims maintenance is done every six months.

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there were more available units, you could leave and go to one with better maintenance. There'd be actual competition between landlords to keep tenants.

Not ideal, obviously, since moving is a pretty big life event. I'm not saying increasing supply is the solution to every problem with landlords. Being allowed to withhold partial rent if common elements are broken would probably be a better solution in this particular instance.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Bruh I'm in a rent controlled unit, i had to jump through a shit ton of hoops to get approved for, I ain't goin Knowhere till I no longer qualify for this unit. What you are recommending is the equivalent of a bandaid solution for a wound that needs a tourniquet...

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[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

All the big venues near me have moved to non-transferable tickets.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Landlords derive profit from owning a scarce resource, not from providing any services.

A property maintenance worker does the same thing but is paid for their time like any other working class individual.

This is why you can have a terrible landlord just like any good one. It's not the quality of the landlord that's the problem, it's the exploitative relationship. Just like how slavery is bad despite their being "good" slave owners that didn't beat their slaves: it wasn't the treatment of the slaves that was the problem, it was the ownership of human beings.

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[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Economically they are, both activities are rent seeking

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are some pretty significant differences, but you do you.

And since I noticed the disingenuous responses to the other person saying this already, I'm excited for people to respond to this comment by fallaciously assuming I indicated either of these was better or worse than the other. I said they're different.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Care to explain how they are different, I'm not saying being a landlord and a ticket scalper are the EXACT same thing. Im saying they are both Parasitic on society. The onus is on you to prove they are not both parasitic, if you disagree with this meme. Go ahead!

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A landlord is more like the original box office than a scalper. A scalper is more like someone renting a place to put it on airbnb. This goes against the anti landlord circle jerk though so it will get downvoted.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats a decent parallel actually, since the box office is selling tickets to an act that creates the value. They profit off the talents labor. Similar to how landlords profit off of the labor of whoever built the house they are renting. It ultimately comes down to the necessity to abolish private property.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Box offices which are currently being consolidated by corporations and setting up markets for the scalpers to sell their tickets where the box office takes a percentage of the resale.

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Ticket scalpers take way more risk, plus they don’t get sympathetic coverage on the news when they’re whining that people aren’t buying their tickets at a high enough markup. Also ticket scalpers aren’t withholding a fundamental necessity from people. Ticket scalpers work harder, too.

Really, ticket scalpers are just incorrigible scamps compared to landlords.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"omg two related concepts are not 100% the same." --edgelord.

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