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[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How is it that Russia can sell weapons when its desperate to buy weapons for its war.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

somebody is lying or omitting information, with war comes propaganda

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm always baffled by the prevalent idea that the Russian population is influenced by propaganda while in the west we aren't. Truth is the first casualty of war, for all sides.

The same absurd thinking can be seen in political discussion. Each side is convinced the other side is deluded and lives in a bubble of fake news. Like their side isn't.

[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You want to compare Freedom of information in the west vs Russia?

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

In a war setting? Of course.

Propaganda has always and will always outpaced whatever protections freedom of information has. Those freedoms only really hold in peacetime.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You mean like what Trump supporters consume? And Fox, MSNBC, and all the other "news" outlets? How is that freedom working for the people in the land of the free?

There may be differences in the scale of bias and propaganda, but nobody should live under the illusion that they have access to unbiased news.

[–] AmberPrince@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are still drawing an equivalence between availability of information in America compared to Russia, implying they are equal. They are not and what you are doing is disingenuous.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many Western journalists are on the ground in Ukraine right now?

Ukraine has a very strong incentive to distribute misinformation... War morale and public support is essential to Ukraine's defence.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think there aren’t journalists in Ukraine? Nolan Peterson, Sarah Rainsford, Lynsey Addario. I can go on

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

How many haven't been told by their respective government office to keep morale high in their reporting?

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I don't think you understand how unfree information is in the West. The West has the oldest, biggest, most well funded, and most effective propaganda machine in the history of the world.

[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

The Russian air force is much better off than the army due to Ukraine's lack of modern fighters.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Russia isn't missing jets... Ukraine sort of, y'know, lacks air superiority. Russia is missing munitions.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Great question. What do you think the answer is?

[–] Asimo@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They look smaller than I remember

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

They're still young.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Sept 10 (Reuters) - Myanmar has received the first shipment of two Russian Su-30 fighter jets, Charlie Than, Myanmar's trade minister, told the Russian RIA state news agency in remarks published on Sunday.

"Two aircraft have already been delivered," Than told RIA on the sidelines of the Eastern Economic Forum, Russia's annual forum aimed at developing economic cooperation in the region and encouraging foreign investment, which starts on Sunday in the port of Vladivostok.

Russia and Myanmar signed a contract in September 2022 for the delivery of six Su-30SME fighter jets, RIA said.

The Sukhoi Su-30SME multi-role fighter jet is designed for enemy's aerial targets engagement, aerial reconnaissance, combat employment and pilot training, according to Rosoboronexport, Russia's state-controlled arms exporter.

Separately, Than told the Russian TASS state news agency that a number of bilateral agreements will be signed at the East Economic Forum, including on developing tourism between the two countries.

The United States has warned that Russia's backing for Myanmar's military rulers is unacceptable and destabilising, with its supply of weapons helping to fuel a conflict that has become a catastrophe for the country.


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[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Ironically before this war Russia and Ukraine were both selling armaments to the genocidal Myanmar junta.

Guess Myanmar picked the side they thought would still deliver.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

May as well sell them now, they'll be destroyed when Ukraine gets F-16s.

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a good thing they still have any to sell

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope you're being sarcastic.

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry yeah it wasn’t obvious. I forgot to put the /s my bad