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A UK Member of Parliament recently suggested that there should be a Government minister for men which would presumably do similar things to the existsing minister for Women.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/reactions-pour-in-as-mp-renews-calls-for-official-minister-for-men-356501/

This has thrown up a series of heated discussions on social media about whether this is part of the 'backlash' against feminsm, or whether there is a legitimate need for wider support of men's issues.

As a man who believes that there are legitimate issues disproportionately affecting men which should be addressed, what I really want help in understanding is the opinion that men don't need any targetted support.

I don't want to start a big argument, but I do want to understand this perspective, because I have struggled to understand it before and I don't like feeling like I'm missing something.

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When Ken wants a Minister to compete with Barbie

[โ€“] blackbelt352@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If thar were the case, what sorts of duties would such a position entail?

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[โ€“] darcy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

nooo that would be sexist /s

[โ€“] Susaga@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Women have a minister to support women's issues in the government. Men get to walk the streets of major cities at night without fear, and get respect and good pay in their careers. As a man, I feel like I'm getting the better end of the stick, even without ministerial support.

Women have been systematically pushed down for thousands of years, and now they have systems to help bring them back up. It's like being upset someone else gets crutches, because you'd like support too. I mean, sure, wear comfortable shoes, but you don't need support as much as they do. I look forward to the day nobody need crutches.

[โ€“] nooneescapesthelaw@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some US states where young women make more money than their male counterparts...

[โ€“] JoBo@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Specifically "young" women, who are more likely to go to and graduate from college. But lose that edge as soon as babies enter the picture.

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[โ€“] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

Only if the selection of the minister is based on a public vote. A male cat will be filling the seat in no time.

[โ€“] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say theoretically yes. But don't make it two, make it three or you'll again exclude people.

But that minister then has do do their job properly and not just hate on feminism and try to make their lives difficult and do some culture/gender war.

If you want to do it properly find out first how many things there are to do regarding gender. And if maybe one person can work on gender issues. It seems unlikely to me that you need so many people for one topic. Only have many people if it's impossible for them to simultaneously work for men and women.

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