this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2023
182 points (89.9% liked)

Technology

59569 readers
3372 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change...

all 44 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If theyre in the apple ecosystem, they already have apple products that charge with USB-C.

not an apple user myself, by my cousin is stoked he doesnt have to carry extra cables to charge his phone as he already carries his Macbook charger with him. Doesnt apply to magsafe ones for obvious reasons

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The magsafe ones still use USB-C on the charger side, and you are not required to use the magsafe cable, so honestly just bringing the charger and a C-to-C cable will charge both the phone and the laptop.

[–] aard@kyu.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do people even use the magsafe cables? Not a mac user, but I initially liked the idea - so I got some cables and port inserts which pretty much look like the apple variant. I stopped using it after killing a charger by shorting it out with some metal particles trapped by the magnet, and noticing that all cables started collecting small metal particles when used outside of a sterile environment.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My current laptop has a MagSafe, and I had laptops from before they had switched to usb c charging and I have never had that problem.

Do you work in a metal shop?

[–] aard@kyu.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you work in a metal shop?

Not that I'm aware of.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure, I can only reply anecdotally that I have used Apple laptops with mag safe connectors for many years and never had a problem with metal getting stuck in there and shorting stuff out.

I think I remember a post from a few years back where someone was having problems charging and found a used staple stuck in there, but I don't think it has been a wide spread problem.

[–] Tag365@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wait, did all cables collect metal particles all the time, or did the MagSafe charger change that so it suddenly started doing that to every charger you own?

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The MagSafe ones can still charge over USB-C if you want to, using MagSafe is optional. I never bring the MagSafe cable when I travel and just use regular USB-C cables.

[–] vacuumfountain@startrek.website 47 points 1 year ago

Apple doesn’t tell its store employees SHIT. We were on MacRumors and streaming the keynotes so we wouldn’t be blindsided. I really doubt they were told this.

[–] cuchilloc@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don’t get it, current charger is usbc out. The current charging cable is usbc to lighting. Why won’t the included cable work with the old charger? New cable should be just usbc male on both ends. What am I missing?

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The new cable, that is included in the box, is C to C, both male, so there is literally no issue. Apple is just butthurt that they had to ditch lightning.

And probably they want to redirect the anger of iPhone buyers from them to the EU.

[–] cuchilloc@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And 9to5 mac is butthurt too? Like… I still have two iPod classic cables and they are not going to the landfill. They will replace the one I use when it breaks. Same will happen for these, you will give them along to whoever still has a lighting jack until they break.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are just reporting what Apple says.

9to5mac spews the same garbage Apple puts out in my experience.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are so butthurt they said they will be limiting data transfer speeds to usb 2.0 because they want people to use their stupid icloud subscription

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lightning phones could only use 2.0 speeds. There is no change to the hardware except for the form factor of the connector.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that is the problem. If Apple was truly selling top end hardware they should have used a USB-3 or even a Thunderbolt 4 port and possibly a truly fast charging experience, but again, they don't want their customers to use their usb-c ports for anything but charging because that would lower the value of iCloud and they like that subscription money now.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

Fast charging and data transfer are two different things. The iPhone must comply with USB PD at least 100W.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The chargers are fine, but the old cables are now much less useful. The only thing left (I think?) that uses lightning are AirPods.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

AirPods, Mighty Mouse, Magic Trackpad.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That’s going to be me after the iPhone 15 comes out. I’ve been needing to upgrade for a while now, but have been waiting until the 15 comes out so I can switch over to usb-c. The only one left after that will be my AirPods.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have friends who still have iPhone XR, XS etc and those came with USB A bricks. And any time I buy some cheap gadget with a USB-C port it just comes with a USB-A to C cable. So I can see lots of people still out there with only USB A chargers, although you'd think they would be in the minority now.

[–] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

All my bricks are still USB-A because they don’t break, so if I were to come home with a C to C cable, I’d be out of luck.

But it’s just a sales tactic, people are acting like Apple is trying to start an uprising against the EU or something

[–] Dracocide@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Landfill" Wouldn't it be best if you donate a cable or something if its in a good enough condition?

Better than just tossing it out, especially if some people don't upgrade every single release and would still like a cable.

[–] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Ya that’s dumb asf, especially if it’s just to charge the phone which the majority of people only need it for that.

Problem solved, I have usb c to lightning adaptor too anyone needs to borrow my cable to charge I can use it and so can they

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You mean the "re-use" part of reduce, re-use, recycle? Well no it's not profitable you see

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not from Apple's point of view. They want you to buy their latest and greatest, not some used device. They just tolerate that market to push adoption.

[–] to55@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except for charging AirPods

[–] waitmarks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

those are getting changed to usb c as well

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you buy new AirPods or a new AirPods case

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago
[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

MagSafe Charging. I haven’t used my phone or air pods plugs in months (except for my car that still needs wired CarPlay)

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Previous iphone models are not gonna disappear over night, and there are hundreds of millions of them out there. People are still using iphone 6 and 7 till this day. Lightning cables and accessories are still gonna be made and sold for years to come.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Right? All my old phones go to my wife, and her old phones go to the in-laws, etc etc. The cables can be handed over along with the phone.

[–] revs@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

I’ll probably buy one or two of the lightning usb-c adapters to use for a while to allow charging when travelling without extra cables.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What's that Apple?

Bark bark bark

You pushed USBC down the well?