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As an example: I was doing a search for the best sesame substitute today. Everything that came up was things like, "11 Best Sesame Substitutes," and I know for a fact that just about everything they suggested tastes nothing like sesame. Just another site trying to get hits. So I added reddit.com into my search parameters and immediately got some decent answers.

I really hate that I have to do that to get anything useful, but there is a ridiculous amount of useful information on Reddit. I hope the fediverse gets to this point as well one day.

Anway, just needed to vent. Lemmy on.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's positively maddening. Especially since that Spez has turned Reddit into a walled garden experience now, I no longer want to rely on Reddit for answers. Google is just a mess of garbage blogs full of link rotted 'answers'.

[–] Burp@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the AI generated websites are driving me insane. They just repeat the same thing over and over again with a bunch of useless text.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the AI generated websites are driving me insane. They just repeat the same thing over and over again with a bunch of useless text.

[–] rostby@lemmy.fmhy.net 4 points 1 year ago

Reddit moment

[–] Jamesbong@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I no longer used reddit daily. But I still use it (without an account) mainly for research. Reddit no longer exists. It's just a databse of answers like stack overflow to me.

Interestingly I even relay even less and less on searching reddit through google. I use bing ai and bardai since their dataset upadates daily.

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It will. I’ve asked stupid questions on here, that I could have gone to Reddit to find the answers for, just to help out with content.

I still use Reddit for movie megathreads. There’s nowhere else on the internet that I’m able to do that yet. And I’d love to start megathreads here, but I’m not capable of handling such responsibility.

[–] Dempf@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will try to do my part and ask some stupid questions as well. I have a whole lifetime of experience in being stupid so it shouldn't be a problem.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Trying to do my part! I'll try to ask more stupid questions on here. I have plenty of them to ask.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yep I still search Reddit for answers, but I post content and ask questions here. Which is fine IMO, it's has always been the people that make the good content, not the platform. There were good hardworking people that made those resources, and so it's ok to use it till those resources move off site.

One issue with Lemmy is the SEO problem. There are a few Lemmy search tools, but simply googling something doesn't bring up posts like it would with Reddit. It either needs time, or someone will implement a fix in the source code.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hate how most search result options are either reddit, or some top 10 ranking website with no information, just repeated product information

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I agree with the search engine lamenting. In the past I could just paste the terraform resource name in Google and the first hit would be the doc page. Now it doesn't even deliver me with anything useful 90% of the time.

Google search results really are turning/have turned to s***. Ive gotten better search results out of gpt4 than out of google. And all the "best x" or "best alternatives to y" are just clickbait sites nowadays...

Ironically the web worked better without SEO I guess? Either that or all the content just became rubbish to lure people to add infested clickbait sites harvesting information and serving adds.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use a combination of kagi and ddg which is better for most things than Google. But, if I'm looking for "the best ____," I still end up on Reddit. 90% of the review site are SEO bombs and/or AI generated nonsense.

At least I'm not signed in anymore 🤷

[–] adeoxymus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I like how kagi has a button to show "forum" replies, which very often is Reddit:

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess if GPT ate reddit, once it gets more reliable you can rely on that instead? Not sure if that's much better though, lol

[–] Bartem@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hasn’t GPT eaten Reddit already? Genuinely asking.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, every LLM ate reddit but LLMs aren't aren't reliable and tend to hallucinate .

On the hand, one could train an / (ask a big enough) AI to extract useful info from each post, sort it in big categories (life style, science, mechanic,etc ) and subcategories (life tips, male clothe tips, chemistry, animal facts , car engine repair, bike engine repair ) then Do an internet search to check if there are other sources and use it to judge the reliability of the info and put it in a database that the LLM look up before answering. This condensed reddit could likely hold on a few gigs. Maybe there's a better way to do it but this is the extent of my very limited knowledge.

[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like what Bing's GPT4 Chatbot does

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Bing does extract info from sites, including reddit and compare it to other sources but i doubt they're creating a database. Imagine all the wisdom, knowledge of hundreds of thousands of people but offline and only without the useless arguing and other bullshit.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CrowdView expands the "add reddit.com to the query" idea to include many more sites, including ones that don't platform extremists for a few more ad impressions.

[–] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

That beautiful, simple, and works well. Cheers for the share

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ah! That's really cool! Bookmarking that. Thank you.

[–] Googlyeyedgal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what’s the best substitute for sesame ?

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Appears to be watermelon seed or cashew butter when making hummus.

[–] Bartem@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But how can we accomplish the same with lemmy?

We can’t add Lemmy.com to the google search, and I can’t remember all the lemmy community names either.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some code sorcerer could make a website that searches all.

[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Already been done, a couple of times iirc

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we have a similar way of searching lemmy? Since we all have different addresses, I don't think the same site: would work.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I found this just now and gave it a try for sesame:

https://fedi-search.com/

It actually seemed to work really well!

Using site:lemmy.world just returned a result for Sesame Street.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 2 points 1 year ago

We'll just have to endure it for a while.

But if we just keep talking about our needs and favorite topics in the Fediverse, it will grow and grow. 🌱🌲

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just throwing this out there but you can make a custom Google search set up only to search for links from lemmy instances but you need to know how to use Google search syntax and have to find and add lemmy instances to add