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Hi Guys. Currently, my Raspberry Pi 4 is only running Home Assistant OS, which works quite well. In the last few weeks, I have grown more and more interested in paperless ngx and Nextcloud. Do you think my pi would be able to handle home automation and some light document management simultaneously? If so, should I install a fresh version of Raspbian or let HA-OS handle the Docker containers?

Thanks for your answers, and have a wonderful day :)

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[–] drugo@lemmy.drugo.me 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's probably going to be ok to scope them out and experiment a bit, but I doubt you'll get enough performance and stability to run it as production. Paperless' OCR is quite heavy on the CPU - iirc you can disable it but then you lose half of what makes it useful, and Nextcloud also does some processing to files that are uploaded to it. Since you are not running pi-hole or other latency-sensitive services it will probably be fine, it will just get sluggish while it processes uploads.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While paperless processing is indeed quite intensive, it's not like this is a latency-sensitive task. If it takes 5m to OCR a scan, so be it. That doesn't make it unusably slow.

[–] drugo@lemmy.drugo.me 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I meant is that overloading the CPU on a Raspberry running pi-hole will make the whole network misbehave and timeout, until DNS requests are able to be serviced again. But since they're not doing that it should be fine :)

[–] Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's there any way around this? I don't want my smart home applications to run sluggish. They need to have priority.

[–] drugo@lemmy.drugo.me 1 points 1 year ago

I would say not in a way that makes sense, there may be hacky workarounds like setting nice priorities or messing around with scheduling, but there's no way around hardware limitations. The Pi's CPU, RAM, and IO bandwidth are what they are, and you need overhead to guarantee "snappiness"

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Nextcloud will be slow. To be realistic is it always slow in all hardware.

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ive been running HA (in docker container) and NextCloud on rpi4 4gb and it was working fine, but after server upgrade (diy pc) nextcloud became much more snappy (wasnt my reason to upgrade). Not sure about paperless, but I had many more lightweight services along with HA and NC. Im also not heavy HA or NC user, just my 0.02

Same here. My old Pi 4, was running HA, Nextcloud, Ghost blog, websites, Jellyfin and a couple of other small things. It did it fine, but when I upgraded to the Odroid H3 it all became so much faster and snappier.

[–] Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

So I should look into hosting docket on my pi and upgrade as soon as I feel like it?

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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DNS Domain Name Service/System
HA Home Assistant automation software
~ High Availability
NAS Network-Attached Storage
NUC Next Unit of Computing brand of Intel small computers

4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 11 acronyms.

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[–] PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Can always get a NUC or another Pi.