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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 57 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I like the idea of FreeBSD, but I can't see the point of giving up on my Linux conveniences to switch over to it. What advantages does it provide, and are they worth the switch, considering I'm losing a lot of software, as well as any semblance of gaming?

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The advantage is that you can rebrand it, close the source and sell it as your invention.

Btw, did you know that Apple invented Unix?

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple invented Unix?? What the hell are you talking about?

Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan, Douglas McIlroy, and Joe Ossanna at Bell Labs developed and invented Unix.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

!woosh@feddit.de ;)

This was a joke about how Apple just takes open source stuff (in this case, they used FreeBSD as a basis for MacOS/iOS/iPadOS/tvOS/watchOS), rebrands it and then claims it was theirs.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The source code used to be cleaner and easier to customise if you needed something specific. And if you leaned that way (of closing up everything), the license is much more lenient of course.

Other than that, nothing much. It's interesting for the sake of it, but bsd has lost the Unix race (which isn't necessarily a good thing).

[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What advantages does it provide

ZFS, mostly. There are some smaller peripheral things (like much better manpages), but these days the big one is probably ZFS. Zero licensing conflicts allows it to be an integral part of the kernel.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE switched to the OpenZFS implementation[1]:

The ZFS implementation is now provided by OpenZFS. 9e5787d2284e (Sponsored by iXsystems)

So no big differences now, except for the licensing.

[1] https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/relnotes/

[–] lambda@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you explain the differences between the license like I'm five?

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

Linux is licensed under the GPL, which is described as "copyleft." The GPL requires that if you want to use GPL code you need to license your modified code under the GPL.

FreeBSD is licensed under the BSD license, which is a permissive license. Basically as long as you stick the license statement in your documentation you can do whatever you want with BSD-licensed code. This is why commercial uses (like the Wii's OS) tend to be BSD-based rather than Linux-based.

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[–] JonnyRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At some point, the same could have been said with win -> linux.

[–] true_blue@lemmy.comfysnug.space 10 points 1 year ago

Yes but the advantage of Linux over windows is obvious. It's open source. Where's the advantage of FreeBSD? Companies can make their own proprietary fork and give nothing back?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

The advantages on the server side were always clear. Same with development environments for things that run on those servers.

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you're losing software and are no longer gaming, much of complicated driver compatibility issues from peripherals like GPUs won't matter to you.

FreeBSD is the *nix OS which is stable like Debian but doesn't use Systemd ~~like~~, similar to distributions like Gentoo/Antix/Slackware

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[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On AWS Firecracker

How about on baremetal?

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 28 points 1 year ago

Best I can do is 8 seconds.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wanted to comment on this being a cool read, but there's too much happening in this thread that is beyond my knowledge. But anyway, cool that this guy is optimizing things like a mofo.

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[–] WallK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So 2ms increase? It was 27ms WITH bubblesort???

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