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Software CEO worth almost $12 billion says he goes into the office ‘about once a quarter,’ bucking the return to office trend in Big Tech::undefined

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Atlassian is an Australian company, that's why.

The companies pushing to get people back into the office are coincidentally the ones being run by individuals who also have a vested interest in avoiding the corporate property market bubble bursting, as it has become increasingly clear that the absolute monstrous amount of parking lots, giant offices, and fast food chains in inner cities are no longer very much needed in the modern world, when a massive amount of the work force can get their job done just as well, if not better, from the comfort of their homes.

Unfortunately they have a vested interested in keeping that market, which is already on life support, breathing as long as possible or their net worth crashes.

Result: try and force your employees back in the office in a vain attempt to perform CPR on said market an--- oh shit what, you just quit and got a job for a company halfway around the world? You can just do that? Are you telling me there's countries out there not propping up overly engorged property markets and teetering their economy on top of a dead in the water industry...?

Shit, guess they didn't think that through very well...

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Uh might want to read up on the current state of Australian real estate before making that connection dude...

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not sure why net worth would legitimize his position

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

For me it acts as a warning of the credibility of whatever newspeak is going to come out of his mouth.

[–] _bug0ut@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Probably because most of the people at his net worth are pushing for RTO so he's the exception to the rule.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

because it means he is fucking successful and on pair with other big players, so nobody can say he is just a little light.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Because he could be a "CEO" of the company he founded with 3 employees

[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If anything, it weakens the article

"Duh of course he doesn't go. Rich people and C suites are the two classes that NEVER work. And he's both"

I have no idea why the title doesn't focus on the policy for the workers, rather than the CEO's

[–] Mikey_donuts@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How the fuck does anyone get to be worth 12 billion dollars?

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about now but back when i worked in STEM, almost everyone in tech used some atlassian software

the company has an IPO so the net worth is largely equity value, i'm sure the net worth would have increased substantially during COVID/wfh periods.

from his wikipedia page "Farquhar often carries the epithet of accidental billionaire after he and his business partner Mike Cannon-Brookes founded Atlassian with the aim to replicate the A$48,500 graduate starting salary typical at corporations without having to work for someone else"

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago

Nobody should be a billionaire.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 20 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Atlassian implemented a Team Anywhere policy in 2020 and has stuck with it, even as companies began introducing hybrid working schedules with the end of the COVID pandemic.

Farquhar’s views on remote work put him at odds with other major tech CEOs, who are increasingly trying to get employees back to the office at least part of the time.

Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told employees in an internal meeting this month that fully remote workers likely would not have a future at the company, reports Insider.

Many tech companies that once praised remote work are now trying to get people to the office, citing improved collaboration and productivity.

Even Zoom, whose videoconferencing software helped power the pivot to remote work, is trying to get its employees back to the office at least twice a week.

Founder and CEO Eric Yuan told Zoom employees that it was tough to build trust remotely, Insider reported earlier this month.


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[–] SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 16 points 1 year ago
[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

Why is he worth $12 billion?

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck RTO but also fuck atlassian, shit company making shit software.

[–] crazyman@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Someone's upset their PM made them start using JIRA tickets

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I actually don’t hate Jira, but maybe because I’ve been forced to use it for so long lol. Bitbucket on the other hand…

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Some teams in my office use gitlab while most other use bit bucket and we have meetings where people want to discuss migrating to just one. I get so excited...

...until i hear they want to move everyone to bitbucket.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I used to like it too until I realized how restricrive it is. The fact that it couples projects and teams is super inflexible. Maybe its just how my company uses it, but its garbage these days, and kind of stuck in the past.

We just migrated to github, and its like night and day. Soooooo much better.

[–] crazyman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My first professional experience was with BitBucket so I've never had a problem with it. There were a few times we couldn't roll fixes immediately because of outages but that's expected with most software to be fair.

[–] buzziebee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it going down, or not updating PRs with new changes on branches are infrequent but annoying problems. I actually preferred the review UI on bitbucket vs the GitHub one, but GitHub have finally made a nicer looking UI so I might give it a go again.

[–] Schneemensch@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I find the lacking/inconsistent integration between Atlassian tools annoying.

Why is there no useful Bitbucket <-> Confluence integration? Why is the markdown or other syntax in Jira so inconsistent. You have to use different stiles in Jira Comments, acceptance criteria and Story titles.

But to be fair with Jira: Often it is the using company who misconfigures in an absolute mess as they try to reimplement some horrible SAP CRM flow which they wanted to get away from before.

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone’s upset their PM made them start using JIRA tickets

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what do people use if not JIRA?

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Azure DevOps Boards, Trello (owned by Atlassian), Bitbucket Issues (owned by Atlassian), GitHub Issues, GitLab Issues, Bugzilla, You track, Taiga, ...

[–] ku10@kerala.party 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

And phone calls and pieces of paper.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Don't say jira. I get cold sweats. It really is slow and shite.

[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh. Jira is just one problem. Have you ever tried to maintain Confluence docs after the doc's owner left the company?

[–] unscholarly_source@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you not have multiple confluence space admins to avoid specifically this type of problem?

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

More like I'm glad I don't have to use it anymore, the entire development side of the company was forced to use it with ridiculous deadlines.

It was used as a tool for upper management to know who to fire next...

[–] crazyman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

KPIs are often shit and management is often ill-equipped to be reading and assessing KPIs but that's on management, not on Atlassian.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

seems like you should change your job not your atlassian products 😂

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So any tool used to determine who to fire is a bad tool? Like email, video conferencig software, calculators, spreadsheets...