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How much of that is them eating nothing but meat
fine print reads: paid for by the Bakers United Association.
Is this a joke or is it actually industry financed? This article doesn't mention that and neither does the freely accesible part of the original study (though I don't have full access).
It is a cynical commentary on unreliability of such reports. Bakers are always cooking up something.
The Japan Multi-Institutional Collaborative Cohort Study investigated the relationship between dietary carbohydrate and fat intakes and the risk of mortality in the Japanese population[1]. The study found that:
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An unfavorable association with mortality was observed for low-carbohydrate intake in men and for high-carbohydrate intake in women[1].
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High fat intake could be associated with a lower mortality risk in women among Japanese adults with a relatively high carbohydrate intake[2].
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The Prospective Urban Rural Epidemiology study demonstrated that high-carbohydrate and low-fat intakes were associated with an increase in risk for mortality[3].
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Extreme dietary habits involving carbohydrates and fats affect life expectancy[4].
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Men with high fat intake had a higher risk for cancer mortality; the multivariable-adjusted HR (95% CI) for ≥35% was 1.79 (1.11-2.90) compared with 20%-<25% [5].
the study suggests that extreme dietary habits, particularly those involving carbohydrates and fats, can affect life expectancy in the Japanese population. It is important to consider these findings when making dietary recommendations and promoting a balanced diet for optimal health.
Citations: [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37271417/ [2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022316623721986 [3] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022316623721986 [4] https://omniaeducation.com/news/extreme-dietary-habits-for-carbohydrates-fats-affect-life-expectancy-findings-from-a-large-scale-cohort-study-in-japan/2452354/ [5] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371268749_Dietary_carbohydrate_and_fat_intakes_and_risk_of_mortality_in_the_Japanese_population_the_Japan_Multi-Institutional_Collaborative_Cohort_Study [6] https://jn.nutrition.org/article/S0022-3166(23)72198-6/pdf
But what if you're not Japanese? I know you can extrapolate out generally, but it's one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries. We know different genetic traits can play a large impact on dietary needs. So it's a shame this isn't a more diverse country like some countries or parts of North and south America or some countries in Africa.
That's not good for Keto'ers
On the other hand, among women with five years or longer of follow-up, those with a high carbohydrate intake of more than 65% had a higher risk of all-cause mortality. No clear association was observed between refined or minimally processed carbohydrate intake and the risk of mortality in women.
For fats, men with a high fat intake of more than 35% of their total energy from fats had a higher risk of cancer-related mortality. They also found that a low intake of unsaturated fat in men was associated with a higher risk of all-cause and cancer-related mortality.
In contrast, total fat intake and saturated fat intake in women showed an inverse association with the risk of all-cause and cancer-related mortality. They concluded that this finding does not support the idea that high fat intake is detrimental to longevity in women.
So, hesitantly, keto is terrible for men but fine enough for women? Like we weren't already outliving them in general. I'd just be dying to know why, though. You don't just casually tell me dietary requirements noticeably differ by sex and then never elaborate
Yeah but which fats? They vary wildly in toxicity and function
Indeed. And eating bacon is not the same as eating avocado.
Even olive oil can behave undesirably in the presence of heat, unless mixed with a small amount of butter. It's these intricacies that ruin all studies that just look at "fat" consumption
Rendered long pig fat is the best.
An industry-financed epidemiological study; we're shaking in our boots I tell ya.
Where is it written that it is financed by industry? That's not in the article or in the part of the original study I can access.
I've been saying this for a long time. It's a great way to lose weight fast, but it is NOT a long term health diet.
I would have thought it would be the opposite but there you go.
Do you consume a lot of influencer output on the topic?