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[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How could a just and loving God condemn the entirety of non-human life to eternal punishment and damnation, simply for not having the cognitive ability to understand belief?

Seems like either: A. there is no god or hell and the argument is completely moot. B. There is a god and it really is an evil death cult bent on ending all life for some bizzaro sense of 'salvation' (God is not loving) C. There is a god and it is ambivalent to the suffering of everything but humans (god is not just) D. all dogs go to heaven. (God actually is just and loving)

Oh why did I stop here...

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Religion is a lie

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well according to the church, animals don't have souls so they won't be going anywhere at all. Only souls move on to the afterlife, which includes hell. No soul means death is just not existing anymore.

Which is what will happen to humans, also, because the soul is a bullshit concept.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotta say outright, a god that punishes people for not believing in the correct interpretation of him... is a God who's heaven I wouldn't want to go to. Just do the math on regional factors alone. Fact is if you believe in a god, if you are born in a heavily muslim area, there's a 75% chance you'd believe in the muslim interpretation. If you are born in a christian area, there's a 75% chance you'll have the christian belief, same for hinduism, bhudism etc...

Fact is no matter how you slice it, if there is a correct version of god to believe in, at most maybe 1/3rd of people are in the right place to believe in that version of him. Meaning 2/3rds of the world is at a cultural disadvantage to not correctly beleive in the right version of god, and thus would be doomed to hell. That's before factoring in hundreds of other factors like life circumstance etc...

Simple fact is if a god exists, and is good, and has an afterlife (none of which are facts I believe in). I don't think belief or knowledge is any sign of fairness for such a being to do, and certainly sending things to hell for something that they are literally incapable of even trying to think about... is just nonsense for anything but the most malicious and evil interpretations of a god.

[–] evdo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

And in this scenario, they are capable of spreading this knowledge to everyone, but choose not to, and allow or even directly cause people to be damned.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Your apologetics game is weak.

Bait meme

[–] TiredInsomniac@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, there's no god.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ignoring that this is all made up nonsense...

Would heaven really be joyful if we didn't have animals there? No. So of course animals go to heaven. They have no sin so they don't need to believe in god to be saved.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was rewatching footage from 9/11 the other day. And I saw one guy jump... It made me really sad. I thought, you know, if you'd only waited another 10minutes you'd have gone to heaven!

[–] Ocelot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

The Catholic Church does not agree. According to the canon, animals don't have souls and therefore have no afterlife. And even if they did, the Church believes that you don't go to hell simply for not believing in God.

[–] ChewyPretzels@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More people need therapy but don't get it and that fact frightened me.

[–] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Do you go to therapy?