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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

this whole thing is terribly written... lol

how about you just use which ever shitty browser you like?

and i'll use firefox

[–] LootGoblin42@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (38 children)

There is nothing wrong with Brave. It's a great browser. I like the cryptocurrency aspect of it.

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[–] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

STOP USING JAVACRIPT

[–] rglullis@communick.news 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Some counterpoints:

  • I like the idea of a system where users get a share of the revenue from the ad networks, which then can be used to support other content creators or businesses online. I think that if most of the web worked like this, we wouldn't have people being treated as eyeballs and we would still have the power to vote with our wallets to choose who is actually worth of our attention. Is there any other browser or company doing anything like that?

  • People keep talking about Firefox as if it's a paragon of virtue, but casually forget that they are only alive because they are completely dependent on Google to survive and are nothing more than "controlled opposition" nowadays. They also have done a ton user-hostile shit like sponsored links in the frontpage and completely crippled pocket, and let's not forget that current Mozilla execs are raking in millions while laying off people and disbanding key projects.

  • The crypto part keeps called a scam, but their system has been working perfectly fine and it has always been liquid enough for me at the exchanges. Is their BAT token needed? Certainly not, and I would be fine if the 3-8 euros worth of BAT I receive every month (depending on my mobile usage and on their success as an network) were sent to me directly via SEPA. But can anyone realistically say that there is any efficient worldwide way to distribute payouts? For every dollar you sent to someone via Patreon (or Ko-Fi, or any alternative), how much do they get to keep? With the Brave creators program, all of the $15/month that I send to the different people get to them.

All in all, I will stop using Brave in a heartbeat if there is anyone else providing any alternative with a slight chance to fight Surveillance Capitalism. None of the Chromium or Mozilla forks are doing that.

[–] slowbyrne@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Brave's objective is to create a system that looks altruistic but they control it and take a ever increasing cut. Google started off the same way. I like the idea, but it's one that needs to be controlled by a not for profit or by the people. Giving that control to a for profit company is just repeating history.

Firefox isn't perfect, but my argument for choosing them or a fork of FF is to combat the market share of chromium based browsers. With google pushing for Web Environment Integrity (aka web DRM) using a different browser is one of the few good ways to protest.

I would also like to point out that popular open source projects often get contributions (both code and financial) from large corporations. Sometimes it's their main source of revenue. This isn't just a Mozilla problem. I wouldn't even say it is a problem. A problem would be if those contributions affect the project in a negative way.

Just like in most things these days our choices are limited to the shitty and the less shitty. Obviously where Brave and Firefox lands on that shitty spectrum will depend on your priorities, but for me at least Firefox is less shitty and far from perfect, but decent.

Edit: grammer

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[–] Boozilla@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have stopped using Brave. Fuck those guys.

I just wish Firefox would update less frequently. It's way too often.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

...it's like twice a month

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[–] boolean@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

would you rather they leave security holes open exposing your computer to bad things?

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[–] eleanor@social.hamington.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could switch to the ESR branch, which gets feature updates much less frequently.

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[–] tetra@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I use Brave as a secondary browser for PWAs on the desktop. I wish Firefox would support it again.

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Im just waiting for Firefox mobile to add back support for all add-ons.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you tried Fennec? It's a stable and up-to-date release of Firefox with full support for add-ons and about:config

Not all add-ons work for mobile, but many of them do. You just have to use the "save to collection" feature to add them. I've got sponsorblock working in mine.

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[–] bobthened@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Name an alternative browser that has the same level of ability to block trackers built in.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

mullvad browser?

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[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You look deep enough at any company and you will find a lot of shit you don't like.

Go live off the land in the woods if you don't want to support shitty companies.

Otherwise STFU

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

OK, but it's also a pretend privacy browser that doesn't actually protect or respect your privacy.

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[–] Rbon@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I currently use brave on iOS to block YouTube ads. Is there any other option right now? I’d be willing to switch.

[–] corvid@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best solution on iOS is Yattee. You can add Piped or Invidious instances as locations and stream ad-free YouTube from there. Another solution that doesn't involve Piped and Invidious is AdGuard. Open a YouTube link in Safari, hit actions, then hit Block YouTube Ads (by AdGuard).

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[–] Zoldyck@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure I've read this news a couple of times now the past week or weeks?

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