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Carlos Santana faced criticism on Thursday when a video of the musician making anti-transgender comments during a concert in New Jersey in July resurfaced on social media.

“When God made you and me, before we came out of the womb, you know who you are and what you are,” the guitarist is seen saying in the clip.

He continued, “Later on when you grow up, and you see things and you start believing that you could be something that sounds good but you know it ain’t right, because a woman is a woman and a man is a man — that’s it.”

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing about bigoted statements is you have to take it back, not just feel bad that you said it

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The other thing about them is you can't really take them back; you've revealed yourself. As a queer-positive person, why would I support him when there are so many other artists I could support who don't have bigoted beliefs?

Just keep your hate to yourself. It does no good to put it out into the world.

[–] angrystego@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, sometimes people can make statements because they don't understand. They can realize they were an asshole and change their mind about things. This may or may not be the case. Anyway, I think it's a good thing that he didn't double down.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You really apply some kind of ideology test when choosing which artist's work to enjoy?

EDIT: Perhaps this hinges on what you mean by "support"

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not obligated to patronize businesses or artists who promote things I object to.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

That's not something you say and then get away with just because you said you were sorry. That's a heartfelt statement.

[–] Hank@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hilarious that a musician has the urge to say this kind of stuff during a concert. What did he expect? Like I can barely think about another topic where you can piss off so many people with so little effort.

[–] realcaseyrollins@kbin.projectsegfau.lt 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't get why he'd say this if he didn't believe it. People are already marginalized for that position. Maybe he thought he'd get clout and support like some recent country singers but according to Wikipedia he does Rock, which has a fair bit of leftist fans if I'm not mistaken.

[–] Hank@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Maybe he's just a dumb old musician surrounded by people who let him believe his opinions are hot shit that has no idea how the real world outside of his utopia operates.

[–] solivine@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People who need glasses shouldn't wear them right? That would be messing with how god made you. Might as well not take any drugs for illnesses or you might interrupt god's plan. /s

[–] blueday@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Whoa whoa whoa. This is different. Because it affects me. And I am special. Slashees

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He has a mustache, but shouldn't he also have a big long beard? He's going against how his god made him. Why is he shaving off his god-given beard?

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is actually also something certain religious sects get violently riled up about.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I love when erectile dysfunction is brought up whenever these freaks bring up how God made them.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

or wear clothes and cook food, because god made you nekkid and food should be eaten as god made it.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's weird how you can forget a famous person ever existed, but then you find out they are a shitty person and it makes you sad.

Why do I care that Carlos Santana is a bigot? Abraxas used to be in my car's tape deck rotation, and he was everywhere in the late 90s, but I haven't listened to his music in probably over a decade.

And yet, I find myself really disappointed in him.

[–] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is where I'm at. Santana was in constant rotation when when we would hang out back in the day. It really is disappointing every time it happens.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Ugh, stop self-actualizing what you perceive to be someone else’s “kink”, Carlos.

Being gay or trans ain’t about the bedroom, it’s about everything. It’s not a kink. Love is love.

Also there is no god, grow the fuck up.

[–] Wookie@artemis.camp 9 points 1 year ago

Mexicans stopped claiming Santana a long time ago, he’s always been an asshole

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago

Wow, sounds like Mexican Ted Nugent.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 6 points 1 year ago

so, basically, “I’m sorry that you feel offended”? That’s not an apology.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not smooth, Carlos.

[–] Laukidh@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Carlos SanTERFa

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking overrated whiny-assed screechy guitar style anyway.

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Screechy? No.

Boring? Yes.