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and I can't really describe how. Their is more like a they with an r on the end.

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[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hadn't thought about it before, but on reflection, I do too. And I wouldn't be surprised if most people do.

Exaggerated a bit for effect, it would me more or less:

There = thehr

Their = thayr

They're = thay-r

"There" is just simple and straightforward with a pure short 'e' sound and no particular stresses.

"Their" has more of a long 'a' than a short 'e' sound, and a bit of stress on the vowel sound.

"They're" also has more of a long 'a' sound and it's pronounced just a fraction longer than in "their", and there's a very slight pause between the vowel sound and the 'r'.

Huh... learn something new every day.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I guess you're a native speaker. As a foreigner, I can only nod my head. We know.

They're/their/there are completely different words. They mean different things and they're pronounced ever so slightly different, and you'll get you hand chopped off by a centimeter ruler if you do it wrong.

"There" is clearly longer than "their".

"There" is one tone. "Their" is rising.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

It differs by region and dialect. The English speaking world has wildly different pronunciations, even within relatively close proximity.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best explanation

[–] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly I thought the distinction was just American but you're right, I think English uses slight intonation for context on nouns/verbs/prefixes but in a way we don't always write down or care about.

[–] Carter@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

This is why I never understood the confusion with which spelling to use. Just say it in your head.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I had a friend from australia who pronounced every vowel of a word distinctly…. so consecutive vowels like ei or ea or ou, somehow she’d enunciate them distinctly.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Atlantic Canada calling:

  • There: Th-air
  • Their: Thur
[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It's ther (or thehr, if that makes it easier to hear in your head) theyr and theyur

Seriously. There is a shorter word when pronounced, their has that sharp I/y sound, but cuts off right after the r. They're is pronounced with the they-are slurred like all contractions should be.

[–] Haus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The most bizarre one for me is pronouncing the plural of woman as "wimmin." Can't explain it, can't work around it. It is what it is.

[–] daddyjones@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why is that bizarre? That's how you're supposed to pronounce it.

[–] SkaraBrae@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce "they're"?

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This is probably a regional thing. In Alberta I don't think I have ever heard someone say these differently.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 1 points 1 year ago
[–] daddyjones@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it's a US thing? I just tried it and I pronounce them exactly the same.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know, it could be? Another person that isn't a native speaker of English said that they could hear it, but that might just be for the US.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

There is a subtle difference for me. It's hard to describe and I am not a linguist, but it's like my mouth is a little bit tighter when I'm referring to the possessive their.