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The way I'm used to it is: 1. Wake up 2. Breakfast 3. Brush teeth.

Having it as 1, 3, 2 doesn't make sense for me.

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[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] Moghul@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I talked to my dentist about this, actually.

His conclusion was: preferably brush after breakfast, yes it's ideal to wait For 30-60 mins but that rarely happens so just do it when you can after it's not that big a deal

I'm summarizing, of course. But that was the gist of it

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My dentist says that if that 30 min isn't there, it's better to do it before. Probably it comes down to any tooth brushing is better than none

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

For me it's because my mouth tastes terrible and I want that gone asap

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate the taste of coffee with toothpaste residue in my mouth, so I never brush before breakfast.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use Therabreath toothpaste. It doesn’t have that crap mint taste and doesn’t have the chemicals that makes food (especially orange juice) taste like crap. Also it really works to keep your breath nice without that fake disgusting flavor.

Edit: there is a mint flair but it’s really undertoned

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[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah morning breath is fucking rank.

I want that gone before I go to work. I have breakfast at work at like 9am after starting at 7am. I aint waiting 2.5 hours to brush them bad boys.

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That might be the reason why my breakfast is coffee&cigarettes

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

But it covers the morning mouth stool

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[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

For me, just drinking some water gets rid of that.

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[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Healthier on the enamel, tho I don't do it (and most of the reason you brush is to get off the built up stuff from overnight, not clean off breakfast)

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[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Because acid in your breakfast can damage your the enamel of your teeth when you brush. (I'm not a dentist but that's what I found from most health-related websites.)

https://www.healthline.com/health/should-you-brush-your-teeth-before-or-after-breakfast

[–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who the fuck eats acid for breakfast?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Orange juice is a pretty common breakfast drink.

Or did you mean acid of the lysergic variety? That won't damage your teeth, though you'll have an interesting work day

[–] matter@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Food is generally acidic, basic food would taste bitter and awful.

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that Hunter S. Thompson guy i guess.. most of his friends..

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen articles and dentist recommendations both ways. But the consensus seems to lean towards after. You want the fluoride to sit on the teeth and get absorbed as much as possible. This should provide a larger benefit than the damage of brushing when your teeth are, and not brushing means just leaving that gunk on the teeth even longer to mess them up more. But yeah, I guess you aren't supposed to wash your mouth out after brushing or mouthwash, and avoid eating/drinking for about 30 minutes. Just try and spit it out as best you can, that's how I've done it for years, takes a little getting used to but isn't something I notice anymore.

[–] Mobile_Audience@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Afaik, brushing your teeth doesn’t weaken the enamel or anything like that, or at least it shouldn’t. When brushing it’s not actually the bristles that are supposed to be doing most of the work, it’s the toothpaste which acts as polishing paste (it has tiny little micro abrasive particles or something like that). So if a dentist ever asks you what kind of toothbrush you use, soft, medium, or hard bristles, if you answer anything other than soft they’re probably going to recommend switching to soft bristles. Medium and hard bristles can damage the gums and with hard enough brushing overtime can be macro-abrasive and wear away your teeth. Better to use soft bristles and let the toothpaste do the polishing work.

Source: dentists told me so, lol

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The argument I've seen, that they seemed to be referencing, is that no matter how soft the bristles, brushing when there's acid from our food and byproduct of the bacteria on your teeth sharing your meal, then even soft bristles can damage the enamel because the surface is temporarily weakened.

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[–] OptimusPhillip@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Not a dentist, but the reason dentists gave me for doing it in that order is that bacteria and plaque build up a lot while you sleep, since your teeth are just kind of sitting there doing nothing. So I guess waiting until after breakfast is just an unnecessary delay.

[–] Skotimusj@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

If you smell your breath first thing in the morning it stinks. This is a sign of bacterial overgrowth. During the day, the biggest barrier to this is natural saliva production and agitation through movement of the mouth. These things are drastically reduced while you sleep and thus leads to a build up of bacteria. This is why it is advised that you brush your teeth after waking.

Technically, it is also advised that you brush your teeth after each meal but that is not practical for most.

huh, TIL brushing before is apparently better

I go 1, 3, 2 because it was easier for me to form the habit that way. I don't always have time for breakfast in the morning, so I anchor it to 1 instead of 2

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Build up of bacteria at noght means that if you eat in the morning before brushing there will be more bacteria to break down the food into acid which will break down your teeth.

Ideal is to brush first but also brush after each meal*

*as long as the acidity in your mouth is 5.5pH or less your teeth are being broken down by the acid (which means that brushing would be scrubing them with acid and making it worse) in which case you should wait until your spit (which is a buffer solution) returns your pH to normal. Since most foods are acidic the recommendation is to wait 30i mnutes after eating and then brush. Or you can eat suger free gum right after a meal, this will trick your brain to produce more spit which will return the normal pH faster.

My personal system is like so:

Wake up

Use dental jet floss (water floss)

Brush teeth

After any foods eaten chew gum for 10-30 minutes

Floss

Dental jet (if at home)

If I'm at home and have 30 minutes to wait between mouthwash and brushing then I use mouthwash, wait 30 min then brush, if not then just brushing and if I'm not at home then just mouthwash.

Repeat for as many things as I eat that day.

Before bed:

Floss

Dental jet

Mouthwash

Wait 30 min

Brush

[–] nils@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

The health related reasons others gave are interesting, but my reasoning is this pretty simple: On normal weekdays I don't really have breakfast, so brushing my teeth as one if the first things makes sense. On weekends I like to have breakfast with my family so I'd like to get rid of morning breath before I talk to people.

[–] HC4L@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Also, I get toothpaste stains on my good clothes if I brush after breakfast

[–] SuperRecording@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you know how your teeth feel smooth after you brush? that smoothness helps things like coffee not stick to them, in turn helps avoid stains

brushing before coffee is legit the thing to do

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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Because you have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you brush your teeth or you damage them. I don't have that time.

So I rather brush first, then shower, then make breakfast.

[–] cinxin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Having to wear a removable retainer at night means I wake up with congealed spit stuck to my gums and teeth. The visceral ick of swallowing that is indescribable, so I will brush my teeth first thing, then eat breakfast.

[–] open_world@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cuz my mouth and throat feel disgusting in the morning. Eating or drinking right after brushing doesn't bother me either.

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[–] AmberPrince@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The fluoride in toothpaste creates fluorapatite in your teeth which is harder than your regular enamel and more resistant to acids.

[–] agavaa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You should wait about 30min after eating something acidic: https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/brushing-immediately-after-meals-you-may-want-wait . Some people don't have time to wait. Myself I don't eat breakfast at home, I brush my teeth, go to work and eat when I arrive.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For me it's a habit formed as a young boy because my uncle taught me that while I'm asleep Satan shits in my mouth and if you eat before brushing your teeth you're eating Satan shit. True story.

I dunno, if I gag while brushing and I've recently eaten, I'll throw up. Also I don't usually eat for several hours after waking up, it's coffee then late lunch then dinner, so waiting to brush doesn't make a lot of sense.

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[–] Primer81@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't usually eat breakfast and I try to be vigilant about brushing my teeth, so doing it first thing is pretty natural for me.

My dilemma is usually closer to whether I brush my teeth before or after taking a shower.

[–] Royal_Bitch_Pudding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Shower Brushers mater race

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I brush before the shower, as usually my wife is in the shower then. She brushes after her shower, when I'm in there. BTW we both do that after breakfast.

Brushing before breakfast can be done against the morning smell, but when you brushed before going to bad, there shouldn't be anything on or between your teeth.

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