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[–] Repulsa@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disappointing that the red flags this raises don't seem to have resonated with the general public. Branding mass surveillance as the protection of children seems to have worked a treat

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

They're going to get a suprise when WhatsApp is being turned off in the UK and it's far too late to do anything about it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The headline gave me hope that the bill was being shelved. Unfortunately it's still alive and well.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

I was excited by that too.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is just stupidity stacked on incompetence balanced on political Dunning Krugerism, and the advent of Veilid drowns the lot in a tidal wave of foetid futility.

That's the Tories for you!

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's the Tories for you!

Looking at the numbers for the last general election in 2019 the Tories had 365 seats with Labour 203. Bear in mind that the Tories have suffered several by-election defeats since, even on 2019 numbers if Labour rallied the rest of the opposition parties to shit on the Tories landmark bill they would have 285 members against. (This is rather simplified because I'm counting DUP in the opposition seats. However these cunts probably offset the by-election losses from the Tories.) You have to also guess that not all Tories are in favour of this so could potentially be persuaded to vote against it.

It's a tough set of numbers but you have to ask the question of what is Labour doing to champion our rights? Are they actively gathering support against this bill? Are they making this a public talking point? Are making noises to say they will repeal this when they get into office?

Or are they doing what they did with Brexit and tacitly support it as long as they aren't seen to be driving it through?

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

It should be noted that many Labour MPs (including mine here in Cambridge) supported the Snooper's Charter. Idiocy is not limited to Tories unfortunately.

[–] merridew@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Labour previously gave us the disastrous Digital Economy Act (2010), rushed through Parliament without proper debate, a month before being ousted. It contained a totally not-bonkers provision for people to be forcibly barred from accessing the internet if their connection was alleged to have been used to download copyrighted media, and Lord Mandelson (sponsor) was found to have spent a lot of time with film & music industry lobbyists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010

[–] clara@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

it's frustrating to see rules on technology being decided by people not qualified in the field.

then, i stop and think about it further.

i realise that these same donkeys also legislate on healthcare, energy, water, education, ~police,~ ~transport,~ ~environment,~ ~ᶜᵘˡᵗᵘʳᵉ~ ~ⁱⁿᶠʳᵃˢᵗʳᵘᶜᵗᵘʳᵉ~ ~ˢᵖᵒʳᵗˢ~ ~ᵉᵗᶜ...~