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The Biden administration plans to urge all Americans to get a booster shot for the coronavirus this autumn to counter a new wave of infections, a White House official said on Sunday.

The official said that while the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are reporting an increase in infections and hospital admissions from the virus, overall levels remain low.

On Thursday, Moderna (MRNA.O) said initial data showed its updated COVID-19 vaccine is effective against the "Eris" and "Fornax" subvariants in humans.

Moderna and other COVID-19 vaccine makers Novavax (NVAX.O), Pfizer (PFE.N) and German partner BioNTech SE (22UAy.DE) have created versions of their shots aimed at the XBB.1.5 subvariant.

Pending approval from health regulators in the United States and Europe, the companies expect the updated shots to be available in the coming weeks for the autumn vaccination season.

"We will be encouraging all Americans to get those boosters in addition to flu shots and RSV shots," the official said, referring to the Respiratory Syncytial Virus.

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[–] scytale@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wonder if the new boosters will be given out for "free" (in quotes because it's taxpayers money blah blah, for the pedantic people)? I definitely want a booster since it's been more than a year(?) since the last one, and it would be great if they gave it out without additional charge.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a whole thing with my pharmacy about this. They kept on asking for insurance and social security numbers. Me repeatedly pointing out that the vaccine is free and open to everyone living in the US regardless of status.

I swear they can't help themselves. They are so used to these fucking games.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something tells me that this is going to be a hard sell.

I think most people are out of pandemic-mode already even if the pandemic isn't done with us. And while it should be easier to sell the idea of getting a booster to people since there weren't piles of dead bodies from the vaccines like the anti-vaxx people predicted, but that kind of logic doesn't work on folks. The anti-vaxx people were proven wrong, and yet somehow those people are going to claim they were correct and be even more adamant about not getting the vaccines this time.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s a slightly harder sell because the vaccine didn’t kill me nor did I expect it to, but it definitely did knock me on my ass with some flu like side effects for a day or two.

[–] aircooledJenkins@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I got the flu and covid shots last time. Knocked me on my ass for the weekend. BUT when I caught covid a few months later, it was an annoying cold. I'll take a weekend on the couch over a week or more of shittiness any time.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I have the ultimate defense against Covid: Being a loser who never leaves home unless I have to

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[–] Cryst@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you get covid? Because even with all my vaccines and boosters I felt like absolute shit for 4 to 5 days and was out of work for a week. When I returned I still certainly wasn't 100% until the 2 week mark. I can't imagine what it would have been like without a vaccine. A day or two of feeling crappy ill take. Thank you very much.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You probably would have been very hard hit with COVID. The vaccines kind of knocked me out of commission for a day. I got COVID in February and I was out for a week with some lingering effects for another week. I quarantined and did not give it to the rest of my family though.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My grandma just got COVID. It's convinced me to get more boosters.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I tried to get another booster for this year and my doctor said I can’t because I’ve already had the boosters. I was like yeah last fucking year but he told me to fuck off.

So until this shit gets down to the docs and pharmacies, you may not have much success unless you are older or immunocompromised

[–] Ranman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)
[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't even know there WAS a new booster. God, will we ever escape this mess?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Welcome to an endemic disease.

Like influenza, well have to keep getting tailored vaccines each year as the disease continues to mutate and circulate.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It should be available next month for the Eris strain.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It will be better than not getting one, but the newest version of the vaccine will be more tailored towards some of the newer strains that are out there. (In addition to the older strains that still exist)

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They should already know. Flu vaccines get updated every year, and we've known COVID immunity falls off fairly rapidly regardless. People were going only 3-6 months between infections in the initial outbreak. I don't know what the longevity of the COVID vaccines are but it doesn't seem great, even ignoring that you need updates for new mutations.

Now, maybe his supply of vaccine doesn't protect against the latest strains, but if that was the case I'd expect him to have mentioned that, because it isn't the overall supply either since some places are throwing them away.

There's always the chance your doctor is just an idiot.

After all, do you know what you call the bottom 10% of a medical school graduating class?

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh wow. That really sucks.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your doctor sounds like a fucking moron.

However, at this point wait until the new one next month.

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[–] time_fo_that@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Both my parents and a handful of friends have it right now

[–] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like I’m only just recently hearing about “RSV” (Like within the last 9 months).

Is that a new thing or do I just live under a rock?

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Babies always got it. But this is the first time I've really seen it be a concern for adults

I got it in December and holllly shit. Covid would have been better, supposedly. My parents got covid and they weren't out of it very long but this thing kicked the shit out of them for 2 weeks

I got it a couple weeks later and I've never been so wiped the hell out for 10 straight days. And a couple more weeks to recover

After seeing how people fared with covid and seeing what I went through with RSV, I'll take as many RSV vaccines as I'm allowed to take for the rest of my life

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was explained to me that RSV is a concern for adults more because they transmit it to young children who are at much greater risk from it. Most adults who get it don't even know it from another routine illness (sounds like your parents were an exception). I'm not a doctor, this is just how it was explained to me.

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yes that's typically what's happened but this year was a rough ass ride

[–] SuzyQ@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I didn't know it was a thing until my second child got it in 2012. He had recently turned 1, so it wasn't as bad as it could have been (baby danger is for those 1 and younger). It took a while, but it cleared up. He was put on an emergency inhaler to help with the symptoms. I'm convinced that the RSV infection plus the fact that he was a small child (25th percentile for height and weight, but otherwise healthy) contributed to him developing asthma. His asthma doctor told me that is a very real possibility (there's no way to know for certain). He's gotten better as he's gotten older, but I'm forever on edge with new respiratory infections.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

~~It's not a new thing, but I think the shots were mainly given to kids in the past.~~ But the symptoms can mimic Covid, so I think they have started advising more adults to get the shots.

RSV isn't a new thing, but the vaccine apparently is. See the reply. Below

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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The last few boosters I got made me sicker than the last few COVID cases I got. Fever aches and fatigue for about 2 days.

[–] Ranman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Almost certainly.

[–] digitalgadget@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Me too, and I was glad my body responded so I knew it was doing something.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Switch out for Novavax?

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is this gonna become a yearly thing?

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When we failed to take the initial spread seriously and let the thing turn endemic, yes. Yes it will. Much like the flu.

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Yeah, they said a couple years ago, they were expecting it to have a yearly booster, same as the flu.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Likely, but keep in mind, generally overtime, viruses become less* lethal as its the non lethal ones that survive to spread(as lethal ones kill host, and killing the host is detrimental for the spread of a virus)

Dudewitbow

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not really. Most viruses get weaker as they mutate. It only makes it easier for the virus to survive and thrive if it is less destructive to its host.

If viruses got more violent we’d all had died from the common cold a long time ago.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

True it just sucks that it's yet another thing I have to worry about just to live and perform my job correctly. I hate getting sick regardless of lethality.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You said lethal where I think you meant non-lethal. This is confusing your point.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great, but why can't I get it now? These have been basically ready for a while.

[–] Smokeydabear94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that this is a different "mutation" of the omicron variant, and the new booster is with the updated target but I heard it's not out until autumn, I think it's Moderna? Is developing the one I'm thinking of

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