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[–] anlumo@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you want a tablet with an Intel processor? Especially with Linux, which unlike Windows, runs perfectly fine on ARM.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does everything run on ARM? Steam, Wine, stuff like that? Are the power optimisations as good on Linux/ARM as on x86? Not saying they aren't, but I imagine on a laptop replacement thingy x86 makes sense due to this kind of support.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are the power optimisations as good on Linux/ARM as on x86?

ARM chips use less power, that's kind of the whole point.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't necessarily as true as it once was. X86 has made a lot of ground in power efficiency and ARM has made a lot of ground in performance

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Intel chips are still quite hot and use older process nodes which are less efficient. They have been pushing performance over efficiency recently as well. If this was AMD hardware on N5 I would agree with you, but sadly it isn't.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's true in general, but Intel Atom is quite promising IIRC, and efficiency cores + improvements to their fabs should only continue to improve the situation.

I'm not saying the old logic of "ARM is efficient, x86 is fast" isn't still true, but it's becoming less true, and they're kind of converging to be similar chips but with different starting points (i.e., the needs are becoming more similar, and the differences are becoming lesser).

I'm not saying the old logic of "ARM is efficient, x86 is fast" isn't still true

Okay then I will say it. Apple Silicon is almost as fast per core than Intel and AMD. I am not talking just about x86 vs ARM in general because that's a fools errand. I am talking about Intel. That's also not an Atom chip, they don't make Atom anymore. Sure it is made of E cores but those are several generations removed from the Atom chips. It would actually make more sense imo if they used the 8 core version of that chip.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The processors do, that doesn't mean the desktop Linux distributions are well optimised for it. The available Linux phones have garbage battery life and a bunch of other issues.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s not really the use case for a tablet. It'd be nice to run Android apps, but I think that’s possible on Linux on ARM.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As long as something is running a desktop OS, anything is a use case for it. Maybe that's exactly the point why it's x86. It has a 12" inch sceeen after all, so it's not like it's just a mini 8" tablet you take to bed to watch vids before sleeping.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I want one! Well, I'd rather have one with a 10" display, but this looks good too.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Someone knows something like this with (possibly color) E-Ink?

Or maybe an E-Reader where you can go out of the reader application and install Android/Linux apps (e.g. you can "hack" them without much trouble)?

[–] jdaxe@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Nowhere near as powerful, but you might find this interesting https://beepy.sqfmi.com/? It has a similar display to e-ink

It's a bit of a DIY thing but cool if you're into that, especially if you already have a pi zero.

Check out this article: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/messing-beepy-formerly-known-beepberry

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another fine kbin thumbnail image caching bug. Prepare for our entire instance to comment.

[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm ready to draw my pen out. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I'll wait for the arm architecture equivalent.

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Paid 200 for an old surface, it literally races with arch. No problems whatsoever. But libreboot would be nice.

[–] jesterraiin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

$498

optional keyboard cover for an extra $101.

Ah, I understand. It's an attempt to replicate Steve "unwashed" Jobs' strategy, where buying overpriced stuff makes you BETTER, DIFFERENT and UNIQUE. Am I right?

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

$500 with a keyboard would be acceptable for a device like that. But the retail price is given as $700 plus $100 for the keyboard. That's pretty steep.

[–] Whatisawaffle@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Okay but why is the thumbnail an erotic underwear model with her bush out?

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EnderofGames@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Presumably, your lemmy instance (or rather kbin) did something wrong with its caching.

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

IIRC it's a kbin isduIsue only. Some problem with cached images

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If it is not W, I'm fine with that.

[–] FishInABarrel@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there's a bug causing threads that don't have an image to pull a random thumbnail. I've seen a lot of unrelated thumbnails the last couple of days, but this is the first NSFW one.

[–] Hank@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that a kbin exclusive bug? Tbh it brought me more entertainment than annoyance so far

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it seems to only affect Kbin instances right now. If you view the thread on the original instance, you'll see the correct thumbnail.

[–] Ninth3891@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Whatisawaffle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see...and why is it the thumbnail on an article for a piece of computer hardware?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Kbin apparently is having caching issues.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

That is a valid question. I cannot find the thumbnail image on the site.