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I was using Windows for a long time, from 95, XP, 7 and 10. Games just worked out fine, software that I needed I pirated. But I was annoyed from updates, (cannot turn off MY pc, just update and turn off option) bing, fokin bing and oh the best - F1 binded to it.

On parent’s pc is 7 still installed lol, not gonna change soon, anyway, my old laptop(server since 2017) wasn’t working properly with win, so only option to save it was Linux. Ubuntu was my choice in few years back, That was the moment I discovered open source software (head exploding image).

Recently i switched my main computer into PopOs, since I worked on it I was ,,scared,, to do it, because of some windows specific software. (I’m still able to boot into win, I kept it for some programs that I need once per year).

But I will never go back to windows as a main. First month was little bit stressful, configuring things and getting used to new workflows, but it is just a pleasure to use. No annoying popups, no preinstalled spyware, no stress related to running unknown .exe files, no bing. I just went from small dark closed box to a nice huge green open(source) forest..

Everything just works. If not, I still can fix it (mostly). I’ve got better with security, I understand more how things works generally. I found my peace in getting to know more how things works, not just guessing what it can do and never actually find out.

So if there is some one that is disgusted with how windows pc works, and is still using it, just switch it for Linux. Just do it, it will bring joy into using your machine as you need to and want to.

Just wanted to say this…

…and share the software, you’ll be free… https://youtu.be/9sJUDx7iEJw

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[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago

I just went from small dark closed box to a nice huge green open(source) forest..

best. sentence. ever.

enjoy your new found freedom to explore and learn, friend.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows 7 no longer gets security updates.

[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yea came here to say this. If the machine is connected to the internet, you're waiting for trouble.

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gentlemen, we unplugged another one. Zion is growing day by day.

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[–] mub@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm on the yearly trip to linux land. The one thing that bothers me is hardware support, specifically configuration of hardware devices. My external audio device (Focusrite 2i2) works fine but there is no easy to change the bit rate etc without messing with core config files. This is the sort of thing that should be in the GUI already. My PS5 controller works as well but I can't make it automatically go to sleep after 5 mins. Also HDR support is still missing.

That said, so far I'm finding ways to do what I need, but it is clear Linux still has much to improve if it hopes to attract more windows users.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Thats been my enduring gripe about linux.

95% of the time, it works flawlessly and to an astonishing degree considering, in my case, most of what i'm doing is running windows games at reasonable high detail. Something that I didnt think was feasible like 5ish years ago, which makes it triply amazing.

but its that last 5% thats just a miserable fucking slog. Tiny little things like that, that should be so easy, and seem so obvious, yet to do them is next to impossible or convoluted to hell. Like not being able make middle mouse buttom autoscroll instead of paste, or having to edit some obscure file directly to do the thing you need, or being obscure as fuck and difficult to, say, install a second program into a proton prefix for when you want to use a save editor or something for a game you've played a thousand times.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are the kinds of comments that never seem to come up when I'm looking for info about making the switch myself, they make it seem like everything is perfect now and there's no issues, but these are the exact kind of small problems that end up making me switch back, because I don;t have the patience to sort it out while trying to get shit done. Like, cool, I can play my games just fine, but all of my peripherals have quirks and issues because the software that sets them up has no linux version.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. There has been more than one moment in recent history alone, much less across my years of linux history, where I genuinely was about 30 seconds from taking the tower off the desk and throwing it out the window because it was getting so. stupidly. frustrating. to do something that would be so brainlessly easy on another platform.

but, that was all extra stuff to gaming. Like, installing a mod into cyberpunk 2077. One mod just (a core/foundation mod, of course, that everything else relies on). refused. to work, despite following the linux/proton guide for it, installing all the extra bits via protontricks,etc etc. Or installing a second program into the same prefix so I could fool around and do some cheaty hacky shit (single player games i've beaten a half dozen time, folks, before the pitchforks come out.)

The straight, core gaming? and controllers? Pretty much a non issue, in my personal experience. Only extra step is to check proton DB to see if it works, and what proton version to use... and unless its multiplayer with nasty invasive anticheat, its fairly certain to work.

[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There was a saying years ago that still hold true to today - "Unix is user friendly, it's just selective who it's friends are".

Years ago, I setup an SGI IRIX box for my parents to use, back when Netscape was browser king. I had it so customized for my parents that they still talk about how easy it was to use; problem for me was it took me months to figure out all the config tricks and X customizations to pull it off... Your post made me think of that lol

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[–] ShouldIHaveFun@lemmy.pec0ra.ch 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is just because you are used to windows and it's issues. I've been using Linux for 15 years now and I think this about Windows. It works great, in particular for some specific applications, but it is a pain to use. It is slow, lacks customisation and you always have to install drivers for any device you want to use. Plus those updates are really annoying when you don't boot Windows for a long time. You can't use your computer while they are installed and of you have a lot of them it can take a really long time. I'll never switch to Windows!

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[–] Chickerino@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

i am of the opinion that applications on linux need some work, flatpak would be perfect for this however it doesn't have a good user friendly permissions system, it's a pain in the ass to install applications on non-system drives (which is a much bigger pain for native packages btw) and wine needs to be more user friendly in terms of prefix management, yes we have lutris and bottles but those feel like superglue to wine itself, im genuinely on the verge of learning C and doing all of this myself since that's most of what's holding me back from linux

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[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

I have that interface and don't have an issue with using Pulse Audio for this, why don't you have a GUI?

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My audio interface (GoXLR Mini) has no Linux support and no chance of getting it. So I have no audio output at all from Linux unless I boot to windows first.

Stuff like that is 100% what’s holding me back from switching full time right now.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Streamer hardware is really linux-unfriendly, yeah. Hopefully we get some popular linux streamers who can change that someday soon.

[–] Minty95@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Like you i switched from about 30 years of windows to Linux almost three years ago, Ubuntu, Mint, Manjaro, Endeavour before ending up with Arch which I find perfect. I also have two PCs running Debian for HomeAssitant setups in two homes but I don't like Debian I sometimes use my wife's Windows setup for Garmin Express as that's the only windows program that I need. So keep on going, Windows is not missed,

[–] SeducingCamel@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah I just installed mint on my PC. Gonna dual boot for now as I transition but god windows just keeps getting worse

[–] Magusbear@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I made the switch recently as well. I was really unsure of how the whole thing would turn out with me having used Windows for the last 20 years +, but man, it was way easier than I thought.

I went with EndeavourOS on my desktop and Pop!OS on my laptop (for easy igpu/dedicated gpu switching) and I haven't missed Windows since. What's the most difficult is learning the new keyboard shortcuts, but even those you could rebind in Linux. Because you can customize the OS to however YOU work best, instead of having to conform to whatever the OS thinks is best for you.

And man, package managers, am I right? How cool are they...I tried to use chocolatey and winget on Win11 but they never felt quite right, but pacman and yay? Absolutely glorious. I love typing yay into the terminal every couple of days and watching it go, keeping my system up to date.

[–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, you know the keyboard shortcut for endeavor that does the same thing as the Win+X for Windows? That's always how I shut down our restart my windows PC. I installed endeavor on my Lenovo duet 3 that came preinstalled with win 11 and that is one of the few things I'm missing. Snip with shift+win+s, and the clipboard history would be the others.

I'm debating if I want to dual boot endeavor on my main PC, but I'm not sure about it because my nvme is pretty small. I also networked my kids computer and my garage computer for file shares and I'm not quite sure how well using those windows PCs to get files off a Linux system would work. Thoughts?

[–] Magusbear@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That depends on your desktop manager. I am using GNOME and I'm using its custom shortcut feature as well. If you're also using GNOME you can just go into Settings -> Keyboard -> View and Customise Shortcuts -> Custom Shortcuts to add keyboard shortcuts. I added Shift+Win+S to take screenshots with Flameshot for example. But you can add pretty much anything there.

File sharing from Linux to Windows is extremely easy. Samba (Linux implementation of smb) is very easy to implement. From what I remember you just have to install samba and then add new network shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf.

In terms of disk space you'll have to put some thought into if you really want to dual boot. If disk space is sparse it's going to be tough. EndeavourOS is pretty lightweight but if you want to daily drive it it's still going to take up a considerable amount of space. The biggest problem with one disk drive is usually creating partitions. With Windows already installed your UEFI partition is likely too small to contain both Win and Linux boot data. And when you install Linux as a new partition on your existing drive you will simultaneously hamper your ability to change the existing partition sizes. I would advise to get a new (even if small) SSD for Linux to get around any partition related problems.

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[–] Snowcap7567@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

I had a very similar experience when I switched to Linux around 2 years ago. Now I dread every second I have to use Windows at work.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of us! One of us! Which distro did you go with, and how has the driver functionality been? Is this for a laptop or a desktop?

[–] BigChungus@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Main is Pop_Os and server is now Mint. With ryzen PC setup it´s great. Laptop is old i5, didn’t have a problem.

[–] ShranTheWaterPoloFan@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm thinking about making the switch soon, can you tell me why you went pop_OS instead of mint?

I'm getting overwhelmed with options and just want to know why you went with one over the other

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[–] odium@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They said it was PopOS in the post

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 3 points 1 year ago

I looked for it, too. :(

[–] MrNorm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Did the same on my ThinkPad X270 last week. Went for Arch and everything worked out of the box. KDE Plasma + Wayland was a doddle too. Very happy!

It's dual boot with Windows 10 for now but I think I'm ready to delete the Windows partitions already

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

holy shit it's big chungus i'm your biggest fan

[–] BigChungus@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

Big Chungus hugs to you!

[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing your linux journey!

I've been toying around with linux since the old famous slackware distro!

I have used Windows professionally, later switched to Mac, but my desktop (my main driver) has been linux for a long time.

I run it the way I am most productive with it (yes, Gnome, don't hate me, but liked xfce before that).

I like the way everything is customizable, light weight and... free.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Today you're big chungus. Tomorrow you'll be oh lawd he comin'.

Welcome! I'm a relative newcomer myself and have had a mostly positive experience. My computer is a joy to use now and I actually feel like I own it. Pop Os is also what I've been on for a while and I love it!

[–] StarServal@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to switch, but every flavor I’ve tried so far has not been compatible with my twin graphic cards.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No promises but arch Linux is pretty much a swiss army knife for stuff like this. I just use it because I can get it running on anything and set it up anyway I want.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well, swiss army knifes work.. really bad in comparison with specialised tools.

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[–] Twink@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the communion, Chungus.

I highly recommend ZorinOS for relatives stuck on old Windowses.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great to hear!

Now that you have a couple of days since the switch what are you missing or not missing aside from what you pointed out? Any little things that stick out?

[–] BigChungus@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Missing? Nothing. Few things were easier to run on win, some wizards helped me along the way but otherwise, I don’t think I was happier to use a computer. It’s 3-4 months since I switched main and only one time booted into win for my bookmarks and passwords

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago

I remember that exakt feeling a long time ago and I also never went back. It's just too good. :)

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Good for you, welcome aboard!

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Enjoy, friend! Glad you had a good experience and hope this post helps more people make the switch.

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