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Have to use Windows for work (I've asked), the ads have been getting worse and worse on my work laptop. Today got a game ad notification... That's clearly too far, right? Like I have to clear notifications, so I have to see it

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Go to Manage Notifications, and turn Suggestions off. Suggestions is what Microsoft calls ads.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's because your IT department hasn't turned all that crap off with group policy.

[–] staticlifetime@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that you need a group policy to turn this kind of garbage off is ridiculous.

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Tthe problem is now if you have the store disabled basic shit, like the ability to open .heic files is broken or use stuff people want like sticky notes is broken.

We turn off most of what we can’t but having the store enabled causes all sorts of stuff.

Also windows 11 has ads baked in even with the store disabled. Plug in a Logitech mouse, get a pop up for their software. Open the picture viewer and get an ad to install some video editor that isn’t clear whether it’s a Ms product or not.

No to mention basic things like copy paste and edit are now weird icons because I guess they think most users are illiterate.

Most of the 11 UI changes are not for the better. Having to beta test it for work is frustrating and I run an IT shop.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Omg I loathe those icons. They are so much harder to use than words, cuz I still have to hover over them to make sure it’s the right thing.

Windows 11, in general, feels so shit after being on Ubuntu.

But I see Linux has decent touchscreen support now so as soon as I’m done at this job, that sucker is getting formatted 😈

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MS goes out of their way to make shit harder than it needs to be.

For example. The store, they have a store for business where you can simply whitelist known apps buts it’s a PITA to setup AND they have been threatening to decom it for ages

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-store/microsoft-store-for-business-overview

Want to add safety/security features like secuirty keys. Well if you do it on a non domain joined machine you can just sign into a m365 account to enable a passkey or yuibijey as a second factor.

Want to do that in a business environment. Congrats now you have to deploy a windows CA and issue user certificates to tie to this. Even if you are signing the machine into m365 with ADAL.

They go out of their way to add complexity and failure points.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They go out of their way to add complexity and failure points.

I read a thing just the other day about essentially that. Not that specific issue, but the way their timekeeping works (by default) and is a disaster (literally) when it fails.

https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/08/windows-feature-that-resets-system-clocks-based-on-random-data-is-wreaking-havoc/

[–] DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is crazy. According to a comment on that article, most BIOS uses UTC (as does Linux, obviously), but Windows uses localtime for some reason, so it converts UTC to localtime after boot, then back to UTC when it needs to do little things like networking or TLS.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, it used to break dualbooting, since it reset the clock each time, it was driving me mad.

The solution was simple - erase the ntfs partition.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Now that I don't use windows anymore, I really want to see how crappy of an OS they can make it. It's fun to watch.

[–] nestEggParrot@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Funnily I get confused with the copy paste icons than with just text.

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[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

To that I would argue why should IT need to waist their time turning that crap off. IT should be off by default.

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It shouldn't even be part of an OS at all. I haven't purchased Windows in probably about twenty years but if I did I would expect that if I pay for software, it's not going to come and try to keep selling me more crap. This is just one of the reasons I use Linux.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So is that a personal laptop your using for work or a work laptop? Because if it's the latter, they're doing a terrible job setting policies and turning crap off with either GPO or some DSC system.

[–] UnPassive@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a work laptop We're a small company - I still feel like calling our IT terrible instead of Microsoft is misguided though

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah there are ways to turn that off. Additionally business should be using Enterprise edition which doesn't have the telemetry or that unneeded bloat. You have an incompetent IT department.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I've never had an ad like that on a work laptop, ever. A good IT dept will lock down the experience to minimize distractions for business purposes, and lock down features that aren't appropriate for work.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Everytime you see an ad for a game, you should ask yourself: "does this run on Linux?" Majority of the time and the answer is yes. Just saying!

[–] Madex@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fully committed, this year had been a massive improvement and I'd love to say I'm linux baby!

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

No, they baby, Linux baby to be specific

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[–] djmarcone@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Winprivacy.de get it, run it, disable ads and trackers.

[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nice, never heard of it..

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

This is by far the funniest marketing strategy I've seen.

Well done.

[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] revlayle@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use windows 11 pro, and I don't see any of these ads anywhere ever. Is that something the home versions only do? Did I turn off some setting proactively at setup that prevents the ads?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I have seen it om our company pro ;nstall before, and also not, so maybe it is group policy controlled

[–] Thrickles@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wife started getting these ads as well. Each time she complains I try to hand her my Linux USB drive.

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Keep trying! My teen recently bought his first PC. It came with Win11 and I offered to put Linux on it for him. He replied, "Nah, it's OK, I'm not a programmer". I was like... wait, huh? I don't even know where he would get that idea from since the only programming I've ever done was websites and haven't done that in years. Hubby doesn't do much programming any more either. We game on our PCs.... Email. Browse the interwebs. Watch videos. Discord... blah blah. Literally all the same shit our teen does and yet Linux.

Anyways, I waited until he was trapped in the car with me on a longer drive and told him all the wonderful things about Linux and sold it to him on the idea that I'll set it up as dual boot. Give Linux a couple of weeks and if you don't like it, you can always switch to Windows. It's been about a month now and Windows still isn't even installed 😂

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Mooom, why can't I play Fortnite and Valorant anymore?!"

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Thankfully our teen never caught those addictions. 😅

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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

That quote is just so good, I need to use it more often

[–] victron@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why not posting this on a windows community? Or is OP expecting those sweet linux circlejerky replies?

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[–] forked_bytes@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got a notification advertising Minecraft the other day. I'm positive I have all the settings about suggested content turned off. At least you can disable notifications per app, this one was from "Suggested".

[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Same here, it was all supposed to be off. First thing I do everytime i have to deal with Windows.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can turn the entire notification system off. The fucking thing is pointless anyway.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On a personal rig? Heck yes.
On a work laptop? Uhhh not too sure about that... sinkholing Teams, Outlook and Devops notifications sounds like a quick way to lose track of visibility

Microsoft know exactly what they're doing with their spyware and adware walled garden 😔

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