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I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…

I’ve somewhat recently moved back to a very rural area of the Midwest. Small town. No stop lights. Biggest businesses other than the bars are Casey’s, Subway, and Dollar General.

And we have one ISP (not counting DSL) — Mediacom. When we first signed up, I had to go with the second service tier. But not because of speeds, but so I could have a reasonable 1 TB/mo data cap.

Lucky me, they increased the cap to 1.5 TB. 🙄

I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

U should come to australia. Our internet is worse than most 3rd world countries. And u need a business plan to get symmetric upload thats so slow i doubt u could hit a 1tb cap if u tried.

[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 10 months ago (6 children)

In Switzerland you get unlimited 10 Gbit/s for 50 bucks.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hate you, congrats!

In Canada we have to give our firstborn to a telecommunication monopoly for somewhat OK internet.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

Somewhat OK internet on the infrastructure our taxes paid for and the government handed over to Bell and Rogers, but don't worry, they'll stop all the other evil corporations from coming in and giving us cheaper internet.

[–] Ironside@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I pay 90 ish Canadian pesos for 1gb/1gb for Bell fibre. It's not too bad depending on your location, though that price is still too high. I'm at least making good use of it. 12tb of total transfers this month.

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[–] Jmr@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] electriccars@startrek.website 11 points 10 months ago

WTF? 25gbps? Dang we really do have shitty internet in the States.

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[–] Dettweiler42@lemmyonline.com 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Home internet data caps WERE a thing of the past when Obama appointed Tom Wheeler as FCC chairman, who then pushed rulings to classify ISPs as a public utility and started enforcing net neutrality. Companies that didn't play ball started getting fined until they fell in line. Being a former executive for a major ISP, he was very familiar with the anti-competitive practices and underhanded tricks those companies had been using for years; and he used those practices against them to finally make some pro-consumer progress for internet access in the US.

Then, Trump came in and put Ajit Pai in charge of the FCC (no joke, my phone kept auto correcting his name to Shit Pie). Anyways, Shit Pie tore down those rulings and undid all those years of progress as part of the Trump administration's anti-Obama initiative. Even though it was proven time and again that what he did was directly against public opinion, and that ISPs were flooding the public commentary with bot posts(some even made by dead people); Shit Pie continued to meme about himself and drink from an obnoxiously large Reese's coffee mug while doing so. At this point, every provider of internet services has added back data caps in the US, and they have continued to increase their prices to maintain that 99.9% profit margin. They've also locked down more areas to prevent municipal broadband services from forming, and they're even pushing for legislation to prevent them from ever happening.

The current administration has done absolutely nothing. In fact, they've been so unremarkable, I have no idea who is in charge of the FCC, and I don't feel like looking it up.

[–] khalic@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

The Biden admin tried to nominate an amazing woman, Gigi Sohn, worked for the EFF. But try to guess who opposed her?

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[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Dude... The US is doing it wrong. SE Asia. 1Gbps symmetrical, unlimited, unrestricted. ~14US$.

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[–] Ryan@programming.dev 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In Thailand I'm getting 400Mbps upload and download with unlimited data.

It costs about 300฿/mo ≈ $8.7/mo

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 10 points 10 months ago

'Murica #1!!! (In high internet prices)

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

$40 for 2 Gbps unlimited in Singapore. Caps on home broadband are frankly nonsensical.

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[–] wgs@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I'm reading all the comments and I'm shocked... In France, with uncapped access and 1Gbps down/600Mbps up (theorical) I pay 40€/mo (30€ every six month when I call to complain that it's too expensive). And it's definitely not the cheapest provider.

That's insane !

[–] lidstah@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago

1Gbps down/700Mbps up here, 35€/month (another french provider), no data caps - for 5 bucks/month more I could have 5Gbps down/1Gbps up, but... well, my home network is still using 1Gbps switches - but all the cabling was built with 10Gbps in mind.

Data caps are pure robbery. We run a non-profit ISP/hosting platform and a non-profit IXP with friends in West France, the only thing you pay (and the only thing end users should have to pay) is goddamn bandwidth.

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 18 points 10 months ago

lol uncapped 500mbps fiber (actual fiber directly to your house) connection is 10-12$/month in Ukraine

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Looking at all you guys with your gigabit connections, meanwhile I'm in Aus and lucky to get 30 down and 15 up

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[–] rizoid@midwest.social 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I was very close to closing on a house in rural midwest but I checked isp's and every one available had caps so I just stayed away.

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[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I had uncapped 500/50Mbps for €10 but now I moved to a village and I'm stuck with 100/10Mbps for €20 :(

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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

USAGE ALLOWANCE?!?!

Laughs in Scandinavian

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[–] randombullet@feddit.de 12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Lol Germany here checking in 500/50 for 29.99

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[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 12 points 10 months ago

Where I am, there was only one provider of internet for a long time, and I was paying for a plan that's more or less what you have right now. Then another company came in and laid fiber, and both companies slashed prices and now I get over double my download speed, no data cap, and something crazy like 50x the old upload speed all for like 20 dollars less a month! Before I switched to the fiber company, the first company even increased my download speeds without increasing the price! Anyone who says competition doesn't change things is crazy.

[–] quantum_mechanic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Shit dude, I pay €20 for synchronous 1Gb/s.

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[–] Naura@startrek.website 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yea while we were in alaska we were capped. we were in fairbanks as well, which isn't that rural. I lived in the high desert of california. drive 20 min from hesperia to phelan and you could probably get meth easier than consistent internet.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 7 points 10 months ago

Time to establish IP over Meth Dealers then

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[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago
[–] Reaper948@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Mediacom is the worst, data caps and low speeds for high prices, straight highway robbery. I'm lucky to have a local ISP with no data caps and a mostly reasonable price, cheaper than Mediacom at least. And soon to be fiber when they make it over to my neighborhood. They're currently in the process of running fiber to every neighborhood in my city.

[–] IverCoder@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh boy, you're still lucky with your data cap 🙂

Mine's ~90 Mbps down, ~35 Mbps up, 10 GB open access + 8 GB site-specific of your choice, you reload it weekly for $2.

There's also a 1 GB "Metaverse Go" bandwidth as well, I have no idea which sites are included in that because when I download updates for my Fedora laptop and download apps from Flathub, it uses that bandwidth.

[–] kristoff@infosec.pub 8 points 10 months ago

just out of interest .. somebody here on satellite? I am interested to know the prices for sat services out there?

[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

$70? In Australia I pay $85 for 75/20 unlimited.

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[–] Kazumara@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Allowance" what the fuck? Aren't they infantilising their customers?

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[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

1000/300 unlimited FTTH for ~20$ in hungary, however this company (digi) was killed by the government, and bought under price by a company (4ig) which is very close to the goverment, and the stateparty, and they did 2 subscription price ups, so 2 years ago it was about 10$... We have "bent capitalism" here which resembles to communism...

[–] Hyrulian@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the same exact boat as you. We have Mediacom or one DSL. They gave me a really good deal for the first year on my 1gig, but after that it's going to be about $140 a month. To make matters worse too, the wiring in my apartment building is REALLY old, so the service cuts out randomly sometimes (All tenants in the building are on splitters sharing one cable with the apartment across the hall.) And of course the landlord said that Mediacom was trying to trick me into spending more money and he would absolutely not run new cable. Internet in rural areas of the US is a total shit show. My connection is somewhat stable now, but I can't wait for something else to come to my area.

And yes I looked into Starlink, my building has a strict NO PUTTING UP ANTENNA policy.

And yes I looked into Mobile Carrier Routers and the fastest I can get is 50mb download with a data cap.

I feel your problem on a spiritual level.

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[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hot damn, where can I sign up?!?! I get the same except for a 1.2 TB data cap and pay $130/mo. Xfinity in the Denver metro area. Finally getting fiber this winter, symmetrical gigabit for $90.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

My parents in rural Washington pay $70/month for 10Mbps down. I'm not sure the ISP bothers with a cap.

I have CenturyLink 940/940 here in Seattle with no cap for $65. The alternative is Wave which has a cap and you have to deal with introductory price bullshit.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, the internet companies have successfully bribed politicians to avoid competition. This is just the normal result of everyday corruption.

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[–] brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I live in the southwest. They're garbage. It's them or CenturyLink on, wait for it, COPPER WIRE!

[–] bigdog_00@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I'm lucky - I'm in a Midwest town as well (between 1500 to 3000 people) in the US. A couple of years ago, fiber got installed. I'm getting about 900Mbps down and 99 up, no data cap, for $84/month. Before that I also had Mediacom, and the data cap was infuriating. So glad I could switch!

[–] crate_of_mice@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Maybe you should organise a community run ISP instead?

They're quite common where I live, although I don't use one myself. I still only pay 400sek for unlimited 500/500.

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[–] Species8472@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

About 63€/68$ for 100/10mbps speed and a 150GB data cap. Including a cable tv subscription.

That's in Europe.

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[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Dont worry, the market will simply regulate itself.

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[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

The FCC is still to my knowledge taking public comments about data caps:

https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests

May be worth people here commenting about how they are ridiculous

[–] faceula@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (12 children)

100Mbps uncapped for £26 a month. Pretty happy with that.

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[–] Patchwork@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Northeast US here. Fairly healthy competition in my area, the fiber at my home is about $50/mo

[–] Kodama@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sweden: 50 Usd 1gb up/down fiber directly pulled to a media converter located in my house. Not like I had, living in UK, fiber to a telecom box on the street and then Lan cable to my property...

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[–] dmm@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Damn. Our symmetrical 500 mbps plan, with no caps, is USD 14 per month

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