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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a beta build of Windows 11 in the Canary Channel includes the option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client.

Still no Microsoft edge though...

[–] simdlauper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No longer providing a browser with a consumer operating system is a bad idea. How would you install another browser?

They just need to stop plugging and advertising it so relentlessly.

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The package manag- oh it's windows right

[–] xill47@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It has built in package manager now (winget install Mozilla.Firefox would install Firefox on clean Win11 installation).

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So YoU hAvE tO uSe ThE cOmManD lInE

[–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the cli is just a wrapper around the microsoft store app

[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI.

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[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This is interesting news to me. I’ll have to poke around to see if Windows 10 got one too.

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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

Sure it's okay they come with a browser, but you should be able to uninstall edge after you've downloaded another browser

[–] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

That's the Windows 95 lawsuit all over again. They forced internet explorer on people, got sued for creating & exploiting a monopoly, lost, and had to offer people the chance to remove it.

They claimed it's integral part of the OS, and so were forced to un-integrate it.

I'm sure they will find a way to give users a choice to get rid of Edge, if they ~~really wanted to~~ were forced yet again.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They always knew. When the time comes they'll force everything back with even more bloatware and even less freedom to choose because that's the corpo way. This is just another long-term power grab.

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[–] pixelscience@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm a CG artist and I dual boot Fedora on my workstation and run it on my file/license server. I'm very familiar with Linux and it's great for a lot of things.

A ton of my software runs much better than on windows and I would stay in it if I could, but unfortunately I have software needs that don't run on Linux and can't work in a VM in full capacity.

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[–] polle@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

[–] igorlogius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

one mans bloat is another mans treasure

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[–] Tischkante@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The more steam deck and proton get games working on linux, the less need I have for this bloated windows.

[–] niisyth@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's truly ridiculous how much Linux gaming leapfrogged with the Steam Deck. I'm contemplating installing a debian partition for my main PC since I don't really play a lot of games that need anti-cheat.

The madlads really did it.

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[–] sadreality@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah gamers are 95% good to switch.

Gamers and microshit have incompetiable values.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

If devs started making anticheat for Linux it would get closer.

If they stopped making launchers it would be easier too.

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[–] austin@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I ignore them. Since January 2022 I've used exclusively macOS & Linux and you can't go wrong with that. macOS for my daily driver work laptop (M1 MacBook Pro) and Arch Linux for my home server, though I do enjoy using it a lot for work and if this mac ever stops working I will definitely build a framework Linux laptop. Nothing comes close to FoSS, don't have to put up with most of this proprietary business-oriented software.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

But do you use Arch?

[–] Morphior@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I use Arch (btw) on my daily driver too, but I recently switched to Mint on my server. Too much of a hassle to constantly update on Arch. Though I do miss the AUR.

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[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a way to disable the ads, news and recommendations yet? Until then I'm not upgrading.

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[–] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 10 points 1 year ago

Mmm that's not really realizing anything.

You know what sort of tom fuckery I had to get into to get my gaming laptop working? I had to find a sketchy windows 10 LTS IOT ISO, run some registry hack then find and install all my drivers just because the regular working consumer edition of windows is such a bag of bloat..

For hardware I paid for..! Next time I'm just going with system76 right out of the gate. I just kept reading reviews about things not working right or still being in development so I bought a mainstream laptop with a warranty.

A lot of linuxy or FOSS sort of stuff is still buggy despite being better than it was ten years ago. No one talks about it. Purism phone, pine phone, Linux gaming, the steam deck, etc. They all have major flaws or sometimes breaks in functionality. Where mainstream has breaks 1/10 even the best Linux setup has breaks 1/5 of the time minimum. And that's great but it still sucks that you have to look elsewhere because mainstream is a monetization sponge in all senses of the phrase.

[–] raker@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[–] thattysonguy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't give a shit, I'll use other programs to uninstall whatever I want.

Call me when I can use a vertical task bar. Until then, I'm sticking with win10.

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[–] vandermouche@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every two windows version is a disaster. 95 nice, 98 sucked, XP was great, vista was a flop, 7 wow, 8 eurk, 10 marvelous, 11 is shit... They don't learn. But this time the goal is to make more money through adds, widgets and preinstalled bloatware.

[–] arashikage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

98 sucked, ME also sucked, 2000 wasn't too bad, XP was excellent

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

ME would like a word.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Alternatively, you can get a copy of Win 10 LTSC that doesn't have any bloatware pre-installed.

[–] gamencode@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

You can also select language English (World) and that also doesn't have any bloat for what I've seen

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[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)
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[–] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

It's the integrated AI spying on you that is real concern

[–] DreamySweet@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They always knew, they just didn't care.

[–] giant_smeeg@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Im running Windows 11 on my new laptop. Every major update it's like:

  • PLZ LET EDGE BE UR BROWSER
  • BRO PLZ, OFFICE SUBSCRIPTION
  • LOCATION?
  • Let me just install tiktok and FB apps.

My laptop officially supports Ubuntu, think I might make the switch full time. I don't game on my laptop and most of it's use is browser, plex and emails...

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

They've always realized, they've just never cared.

[–] Thee0023@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Using Windows primarily for gaming, I eventually got tired of some of the issues I had with it (ads appearing in the start menu). I gave Linux a try and it was so so for a while. I kept going back and forth but it's been 2 years now and I haven't had Windows installed and can play 90% of my games without issue. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. But for those that primarily use their computer for gaming and non-windows specific applications (like web browsing or other various things), Linux is offering some competition for desktop people.

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Other than Corrana I use these on a daily basis. I'd rather they stop opening edge whenever I mistype in the start menu.

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