My (unpopular?) solution is to make sure the rest of society isn't so desperate for food that they're willing to rob a robot.
In an unrelated suggestion, if youre in a grocery store and see someone stealing food, no you didn't.
this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2023
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It really pissed me off how people don’t seem to realise that most crime is due to a failure of society and that if we give people prospects then crime will go down.
Pretty sure Uber will just rig the robots with C4 when someone tries to steal the food. And then monetize the video of it on you tube. And garnish the cost of maintaining the deceased persons tombstone.
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Everyday we are one step closer to the plot of Demolition Man. I cannot wait to taste some boosted Taco Bell.
"The robots are constantly monitored and equipped with 12 cameras and two-way audio communication systems. Any improper conduct will be detected immediately. If an incident does occur with a Starship robot, one of our robot rescuers can respond quickly," robot builder Starship Technologies says regarding robot safety, adding that acts of vandalism or theft are reported to authorities.
While that may be true in theory, instances of actual prosecution for theft from robots in cities where they operate have not been easy to discover. As with far more widespread instances of front porch package thieves or shoplifters, despite the volume of video evidence the robots can produce the police have to actually take some investigative steps to identify and locate the suspects
I'm glad they've thought this through.
the police have to actually take some investigative steps to identify and locate the suspects
cops give zero fucks when crimes effect everyday citizens.
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For me, this falls neatly into the "who fucking cares?" category. These things are deployed in very few cities overall and if the technology is ready for wide-release, you better have a more effective defense against theft than you already do of they are already being stolen from
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Fix poverty and you fix a huge amount of other things.
Ok sure, but have we considered arming the robots with assault rifles instead?
The article mentioned tear gas canisters be equipped instead. I can't wait for a delivery robot to be near my property, someone tries to mess with it and gets gassed, then I get to enjoy tear gas as well from my front porch.
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modern crimes in modern times
1 spray can of black paint vs 1000 robot cameras, who wins?
I'm far from a Luddite and I think robots in general are cool. But I kind of don't have an issue with people fucking up autonomous roaming robots. I haven't rationalized that opinion just yet, I guess. Just feels right.
Philly did nothing wrong
I don't think waving away being a Luddite just by saying so makes it so.
I can't think of a single angle of principled moral theory that makes this okay. Vandalizing or stealing someone else's property they paid for. Hurting both the restaurant and the customer by depriving them of their food. Holding back progress on an invention that can reduce the need for humans to engage in a type of work that is hard, dangerous at times, and low paid.
From a purely rational on paper view, it doesn't look terribly different than saying vandalizing or stealing from delivery vehicles driven by people isn't wrong. What possible justification could there be for this view besides Ludditism fuck robots?
I wonder if people had more prospects would crime go down?
That’s a rhetorical question by the way. Petty crime is a failure of society.
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Pepperidge Farm remembers
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/us/hitchbot-robot-beheaded-philadelphia-feat/index.html
You okay with people fucking up vending machines and ATMs too? Why or why not?
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Here's an idea, don't launch these services in low trust, high crime places. In California, people can walk into a fully staffed Walgreens and commit blatant theft with no repercussions; a poor robot out in the world stands no chance.
There's a lot of parallels here. One I'm not on the side of Walgreens and I'm not on the side of the robot. If it comes down to petty crime but the only victim is an insured multi-billion dollar conglomerate I'm not going to shead a tear.
Youve fallen into a rightwing echo chamber:
Maybe we cried too much’: Walgreens hints it exaggerated shoplifting surge
I used to work in a Vons in Santa Monica in 2016. We had thefts every day. Some even got violent. Our manager got tired of it and threatened to break someone's legs after they walked out of the store with something one morning. The theft problem in CA is real.
Yeah, it's called shrinkage and it's built into the profit model of all brick and mortar stores. Every store has some degree of theft, and while it increased for a short time during the middle of the pandemic, its since tapered off to normal levels.
If you read the article I posted, its clear that the rate of theft is exaggerated overall in California, especially by the commentors chosen example, Walgreens.
I'm sorry to hear about your personal experience with Vons, but it also sounds like your manager had anger issues and was part of the problem.
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Lol, as if theft only happens in California. This is a ridiculous statement to make.
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At least we've moved on from killing them in the street.
Poor hitch-hiking bot.
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"you wouldn't -d̵o̵w̵n̵l̵o̵a̵d̵- drone-rob a pizza..."
Sitting behind garbage bean with my Anti drone to rob a pizza.
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I'd figured the article would have some tips but I was disappointed.
Choose your spot well, preferably near an alley without any cameras directly viewing it. Wear a no -branded hoodie, sunglasses, and a mask, then obstruct its forward path, and start spray painting the cameras. Wear gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints. If all else fails, a stun gun might be very helpful in disabling stubborn electronics.
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Until the robots become sentient then fight back?
mf have you seen robot wars/battlebots? they just need a flywheel weapon and they're good for self defence.
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don't even need to be sentient. just mount a rail gun on a Spot and then we're off to the Skynet races 🤖
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These things have been around for a few years on the college campus in my hometown, it's not that new and they do work fairly well. Might be that it was a testing ground though
My niece has them on her college campus.
College kids + alcohol + robots.... It's about what you would expect.
They rarely make it to their destinations on time.
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100% expected.
Version 2 will be weaponized...
It better be. I want a challenge next time.
I really loath thieves, but that's fucking hilarious.
My brain assumed from the title that this would actually be about robot porch pirates now prowling the neighbourhood. I'm thankful we're not there... yet.
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