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[–] Metaright@kbin.social 97 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Agreed. This place ain't 100% the same but it's been a fine replacement and it will get better over time.

[–] teft@startrek.website 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I like the communities around here. Different ones are larger here than on The-Site-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named which gives it a different feel. And people seem to be more apt to have discussions instead of getting crabby. Also seem to be fewer bots.

[–] objectionist@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

what bots we have here are usually super helpful, like our good friend tldr-bot :)

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 12 points 11 months ago

IMHO it's so much better. I've had better discussions, less stupid comments (no pun comment threads so far for example).

I don't want Lemmy to turn into Reddit.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 54 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I can honestly say that I don't give a fuck about anything Reddit related. I'm very happy with my Lemmy experience thus far. Those place seems fresh.

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, the handful of times I've checked back in on Reddit recently just made me think, "Wow I hate it here."

I'm so much happier on the Fediverse.

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Right? Scrolling through /r/all is just a combination of ragebait, low quality trash and circlejerking. I've been increasingly unhappy with the platform over the past years and the great time I've had on Lemmy has really driven the point home how bad of a site reddit has become.

[–] Kraivo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Only wish there were more comments

[–] FuntyMcCraiger@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think there's a lot of people who got turned off from commenting.

It was so easy to gain the attention of some deranged Redditor when you commented, it was often just not worth it. Maybe that mindset came here and people are still warming up to the idea.

[–] Kraivo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Funny comments and local jokes was my favourite thing about reddit

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have been writing a lot of comments on lemmy and people are so quick to upvote or downvote or try to start an argument. I can see why lots just lurk

[–] Kraivo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh, don't say. Wrote an opinion on atheist forum and got myself almost crucified, lol

[–] MyDearWatson616@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is my methadone. Not interesting enough to get me hooked but just enough to keep me from going back.

I swear even the memes on here belong in comedy homicide and I see maybe one interesting article per day at most. I started carrying a kindle with me and usually just read instead of browsing. I've gone from a book every 2 or 3 months to a book per week.

[–] doot@social.bug.expert 2 points 11 months ago

I just need to start mirroring my fav book subreddits to my instance and I'm fully done with reddit

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine paying for reposts every month. Lol!

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can get reposts every couple of hours on here.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago
[–] Sebeck012@feddit.nl 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Relay is an amazing app. Very smooth. And this is a good solution for his app to survive.

But besides the fact that almost all of the money will be going to Reddit. Everything you do on the app makes calls to the API, including voting. And each vote is equal to one call, just as much getting a batch of comments for a post, or getting a batch of posts.

So the best way to keep your API calls low is to not vote on any post or comment.

Maybe the dev will optimize this somehow by maybe batching votes and sending them at a later date, but you can see how the current situation, made possible by reddit, will decrease engagement.

[–] the_kgb@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

i love the app, and u/DBrady has made a great thing. but i can't support that place any longer. this doesn't have the active communities i desire, and that place fucking sucks my heart out of my chest. I'm pretty jaded right now...

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The costs of a subscription will go up based on a user’s daily average number of API calls, essentially meaning that the more things a person does in the app, the more they might have to pay.

Here is the full list, from developer DBrady’s post, which appears to include Google’s take of the subscription and Relay’s expected revenues:

In the newest release of Relay, DBrady says they also added the ability for users to see their average daily API calls.

The plan is for a subscription to roll out in two or three weeks from the time of their post and they expect to charge a monthly cost of $3 or $4.

“This won’t cover the cost of ‘super users’ who use the app all day, but, on average, it should allow me to pay the Reddit API bill,” the developer said.

Many subreddits and users protested against the switch to the paid API in-party because of its effect on the third-party app ecosystem.


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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Shame he didn't switch to Lemmy. Relay was my preferred reddit app.

[–] Vlhacs@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Id recommend Connect. Very similar feel, at least closest to Relay. Relay used to be my daily driver too

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That's exactly what I'm using!

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Same! I currently use Sync (was not a Sync fan historically), but I've tried Liftoff, Connect, Jerboa... others.

Ultimately, I miss Relay, but is what it is. I don't miss reddit.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

This feels a lot like when Duff tried to sell non-alcoholic beer.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 11 months ago

I used Relay back when I was a redditor.

Ship sailed. I get the dev trying to recoup costs and keep the thing running. But ultimately reddit made their call and that market isn't really there anymore.

[–] Zellith@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

Fuck that little alien and his cold dead eyes.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apps that make fewer than 100 queries per minute using OAuth authentication

This is what Reddit allows for free, why is Relay asking for 1$ when using 50 queries a day?

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because Relay has a few thousand users.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean the user initiates the login flow and gets the token, why does it matter how many users Relay has?

In order to make requests to reddit's API via OAuth, you must acquire an Authorization token, either on behalf of a user or for your client

Maybe I am misunderstanding how API pricing for reddit works though. Do they count it against the app id and not the user?

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Do they count it against the app id and not the user?

Yes, that.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The app has is own API, not for individual user.

They are averaging out the cost.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What? That doesn’t make any sense, why would they suddenly ask for payment to use their own API?

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago

Because they are paying Reddit for that API use, they won't be getting it for free.

[–] jason123santa@lemmy.jasonsanta.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right now I am still using Infinity for reddit. Will keep using it till it stops working. The app can also be built with your own key and the limit will not be hit for most users of reddit. For lemmy I like infinity for lemmy best. Its just like infinity for reddit but lemmy.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

How come it didn't stop working yet?

[–] J12@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Screw Reddit. Since my migration over here a couple months ago I’ve spent less than 1 hour over there.

If anyone is a College Basketball or College Football here on Lemmy come join. CFB and collegebasketball on LemmyWorld.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I used to spend a lot of time on reddit. Now since middle of june i have spent like 10 minutes total their and came streight back here. Lemmy has totally replaced my reddit usage slot and i am really happy about that. Also, shout out to the fantastic Thunder devs as i really love this app.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

Just switched from Jerboa to Thunder. Thanks for the recommendation!