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[–] GingeyBook@lemm.ee 137 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lmao Linus immediately jumped back into the "we're only human, feel bad for us" thing

[–] Fjaeger@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I couldn't watch past Yvonne's section, it just felt like a corporate ad tbh.

[–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then you missed where they dropped an opportunity to show a new screwdriver variant coming to LLTStore.com 🤦

[–] GingeyBook@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget to subscribe to Floatplane for the exclusives!

[–] Goret@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 year ago

..and the finale Debrand name dropping ..

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[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 21 points 1 year ago

I was just thinking about how theres almost no gradient between what makes you a "quirky and fun small business" which they want to act like and "oh shit better put on our IBM corporate hats and make another video"

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Once again he comes out with deflections and excuses.

Put your ego aside for one second and take this one humbly on the chin.

[–] dandi8@kbin.social 80 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The "haha, we've made an oopsie" tone of the video (sponsorship jokes, plugging their store link, deflecting to "I'm just a human" instead of fully taking the blame) don't sit right with me. I was also hoping they would address Madison's comments on why she quit.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think Madison's post happened after the video itself was planned, recorded, etc, so it's understandable why that's not addressed. But Linus really has to address what she's said on the forums ASAP at least, because there's a lot of damning claims towards his company from her. Like seriously, wtf Linus?

[–] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, they should stop deleting all mentionings of the Madison thing on the apology video as they doing are now, makes it all seem very disingenuous and fake.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Can confirm. They appear to be doing it manually, so lots are still up (for now), but entire threads are being disappeared.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Given his responses so far, he's probably just going to dig his hole even further.

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

To quote poetry:

Uwu We made a fucky wucky!!

A wittle fucko boingo!

The code monkeys at our headquarters are working VEWY HAWD to fix this!

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[–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 67 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This situation sucks and was something I would have been willing to see through. But after reading the thread from Madison this morning I've decided to cancel my Floatplane subscription. While the accusations she makes are currently accusations, they're pretty damning and worth taking seriously in case they are more than allegations. I await LMG's response to her thread, as I feel that will be the deciding factor in whether or not I continue to consume and support anything LMG does going forward.

Her thread: https://twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1691693740254228741

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 57 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Gonna pop the ThreadReader link here for those who don't want to log into Twitter: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html

On the Floatplane thing, I am a bit worried for DankPods, who put a lot of backing into Floatplane after he got screwed over by Twitch. This whole thing might have some collateral damage towards the other creators on there, including him. Was considering subscribing to Floatplane for him and his drum streams before this.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I may not agree with a lot of things Madison does as a content creator, but what she's described in that thread is absolutely egregious. This goes so far beyond "trust me bro", and is already bathing in the gas that the company is actively lighting under them. Makes me wonder what kind of NDA and contract all of them have, to keep it hush-hush. I'm worried for the people there

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[–] rizoid@midwest.social 67 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Between this and Madison's tweets I hope the good people can get out and the company dies.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well they made the smartest possible decision in letting us hear from the other humans at LMG. The last thing they needed was another smug non apology rant from Linus himself. These folks seem like actual humans, and they made some very frank admissions of error.

Of course, Linus has to come in at the end and minimize, deflect, and ultimately fail to show an ounce of real contrition, learning, and growth. I feel the most pity for him in this because he’s clearly trapped in his deficient little mind, unable to grow through a major challenge like this. He’s passed beyond his ability to just rant back, but he doesn’t have any other pages in his playbook. The best he can do is rely on the adults around him. I hope he does more of that.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He recognized that he was getting emotional again but didn't recognize that it called for another take and maybe some more thought about it all before that take started.

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[–] tranceFusion@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Wait, so people used to take this guy seriously? I watched a review he did on some sim racing gear a few years back and it was obvious the guy didn’t google even the most basic advice on how to set up a sim rig properly.

[–] thann@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew he was full of shit, because hell talk about really complicated things like ram timing like he's an expert, then when he tries to use Linux, a package manager is too complex for him and he becomes less tech savvy than my 75 year old mom, so its pretty obvious he knows nothing when he's not being feed answers by some marketing goon

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That Linux video was so frustrating

[–] keefshape@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Indeed it was. That was the shark-jump moment for me, and I wasn't even a part of the community.

[–] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago

This is so amusing to me, because I had no idea who this Linus was - I was only somewhat familiar with Linus Torvald of Linux fame. I looked up last night just to check that the old Linux nerd wasn't running around stealing water coolers and such.

Extra funny to see a comment the next morning that this Linus knows zero about Linux.

[–] BlinkAndItsGone@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For those who aren't aware why errors are an issue because all they've seen is wacky LTT videos where they mess around with stuff--Linus is the most popular (and profitable) computer hardware Youtuber, and he's always done hardware reviews, but to some degree this whole scandal came about because of him attempting to be taken more seriously. Recently he's been using his millions in an attempt to become the most authoritative PC hardware critic by building and staffing a state-of-the-art testing lab. It was one of his lab technicians who made the comment about how their testing was better than that of more respected channels like Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed that kicked this whole thing off. And the whole lab thing makes the continuing inaccuracy of the videos seem that much more egregious.

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[–] glowie@infosec.pub 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Linus should have taken the $100 mill

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[–] Fubar91@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus always came off to me as one of those people who shouldn't be mangement. Idk, just watching him in videos feels frustrating, and he seemed to belittle his employees in a joking/non-joking manner.

Some of the other "techs" do seem to be very knowledgeable, and i feel bad for them to have to work under a man child.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

The behavior sets an example among the rest of the staff too, it appears.

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[–] Twashe@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did any one see the pinned comment where they say turned off monetization after community feedback? as if this video should be monitized in the first place lol man this does not feel right

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[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

This video is odd to me. The thumbnail of the video is of Linus but you don't see him in the video until almost the end. Even though technically Linus is no longer the CEO of the company the responsibility still falls on him because bulk of the controversy was created by his terrible response post on their forum. Also the tone of this video is very off putting. The awkward half joking "we're human so feel bad for us" tone by whole bunch people other than Linus feels evasive. I think LMG is treating this as a PR problem but clearly it's a serious systemic internal problem and I don't see how the company culture can be changed when Linus is still very hands on. Maybe I'm being cynical here but it feels like they'll just go back to business as usual after this blows over in a week.

[–] flustered@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Things are not looking good for linus, especially now that an ex-employee is making accusations about terrible working conditions, sexisim, and harassment of all types..

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Too late. Don't care.
I've already unsubscribed.

[–] stowaway8745@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

You should care, it reaffirms all reasons to unsub.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

same here. Unsubbed from all of their channels. Now I just watch the spectacle from a distance. LMG is dead to me.

[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

PR damage control

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Call me a fanboy but this is not the worst response.

A few things that still annoy me ofc:

  • Madison's concerns were not addressed (she JUST wrote it, so fair enough, but that shit needs to be addressed)
  • everything sounds a bit scripted. Shit, just let them say what concerns them and the specifics of what they actually wanna address. Like give examples, so we know that you guys get it.
  • Linus blaming others sticks out. I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's doing it unconsciously but it really bothers me and I hope it's just truckloads of stress that he'll be able to work through. This is not meant as an insult, but it sounds to me he should get a therapist to talk himself through the feelings. It helped me, and I can smell the pent up emotions through the screen.

It's not perfect, but it's a start. Let's see what comes in response in the next while.

Also whoever hurt, degraded and ruined Madison's mental health fuck you. I know it won't happen, but if you read this Madison, what you went through was wrong and unfair and fuck everyone who hurt you, you did the right thing and now that you're gone, life will improve. If you got through your worst nightmare, you will easily get through the next weeks.

[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They are least released a video outlining their plan going forward, that's immensely better than other times where they've stuck their head in the sand. Be keen to see how this one pans out

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know there is something wrong in an individual when said individual resorts to emotion/"imjusthumantism" and other type of fallacies to answer facts and logic.

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