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How the children obtained guns remains a part of the ongoing investigation, according to the Sheriff's office.

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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

The bad kid with a gun could have been stopped by a good kid with a gun, duh!

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Sometimes those people are children. But it’s still not the guns fault, obviously. The same thing would have happened if the nine year old child, who had no ill intentions, had a knife instead. Everyone knows it’s just as easy to accidentally stab someone to death as it is to pull a trigger. Happens every day in the EU, I assure you. So many accidentially fatal stabbings by children over the years.

/s in case it wasn’t obvious.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How the children obtained guns remains a part of the ongoing investigation, according to the Sheriff’s office.

I bet it's one of the parents or a close relative that didn't properly store their gun.

When are they going to start throwing people in jail for this?

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Short of someone outright giving the child the gun, that’s the only option left. If a 9 year old can get to a gun, it’s improperly stored no matter where it is.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's true but in these cases has the gun actually ever been properly stored in a locked safe and the kid nicked the key or something?

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a gun owner, that’s still improper storage.

Other than my personal carry which stays on my person (or a quick open safe in my nightstand when I’m sleeping), the rest of mine are locked in a safe unloaded, with their magazines stored in a different smaller safe.

If my kids were able to get to the guns, they pose no damage. They would need to be able to get into both safes and intentionally load them to pose any threat to anything.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

And which of these precautions are you legally required to take?

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that's the case probably not charge. I'm sure that's happened at some point. But kids are playing with guns that are just left out in a lot of these cases and for those, yeah, maybe someone should face charges.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yep mistakes happen of course but most if not all of the time it's just neglect.

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

The statistical probability of this happening is probably not zero, however, it is still probably remote in the extreme. Even if it were to happen, however, as someone else pointed out: that would still be considered improper storage, because the point is that nobody but a responsible adult should be able to get to it, especially not children. 

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just another murderer armed by just another legal gun owner. It's only noteworthy here because of the extremely young age of the murderer, not because "responsible gun owners" seldom arm people who shouldn't have guns.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

This could have been prevented if the 6 year old was armed!

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Take a bow conservatives…. This one’s on you.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the children obtained guns remains a part of the ongoing investigation

I have a theory.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was hoping for a LockPickingLawyer video of him opening up a gunsafe with a fucking pube or something.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

LockPickingLawyer, friend of gun-violence apologists everywhere.

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The incident is not the first involving a young child and a gun in recent months. In Virginia, the mother of a 6-year-old who police say intentionally shot his first-grade teacher pleaded guilty to child neglect on Tuesday.

In July, a 17-year-old boy was arrested and charged with murder after shooting a 14-year-old to death in East Harlem.

Gun violence remains a leading cause of death among Americans. In 2023, more than 26,000 people have died from gunshot wounds, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

In Philly in July, a 14 yr old with intellectual disabilities accidentally shot her 2 year old cousin with an unsecured gun.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...looking for 2023 data, will update when found.

Gun Violence Archive is not friendly to VPN...

...https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2023/

United States Death Statistics by Cause 2023

.*.Covid-19 related deaths are included in influenza.

.*.Beside these major causes of death, 413,888 people died 2023 for other reasons.

.*.Zero death for a cause means the data for the accurate number of deaths is not available at the moment.

Heart disease deaths 385,952

Cancer deaths 322,945

Chronic lower respiratory diseases deaths 62,120

Stroke deaths 98,637

Alzheimer's disease deaths 60,553

Diabetes deaths 68,343

Poisoning deaths 43,844

Kidney disease deaths 30,866

Influenza and Pneumonia deaths 207,784

Suicide deaths 27,489

Homicide deaths 11,103

Liver disease deaths 25,755

Respiratory disease deaths 25,630

Fall deaths 23,566

Firearm deaths 22,981

Septicemia deaths 23,944

Car accident deaths 21,727

Renal disease deaths 21,228

Parkinson's disease deaths 20,501

HIV/AIDS deaths 2,917

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Gun Violence Archive.

[–] ilovegodette@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"Yeah, dude, I gotta own a gun to protect myself in case aliens attack! Don't worry, nothing bad will happen, it won't be normalized in our society or something!"

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

WILD guess, but I am going to say this happened in the US!?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

More than 26,000 people have died from gunshot wounds this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

I used to accept that I'd likely get cancer if I lived long enough…

[–] spacedance@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Being six years old doesn't mean that he's not allowed to defend himself, I see no problem here.