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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[–] Belkor@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How does Reddit get away with hosting these communities without the mentioned issues?

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[–] IZanderI@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any suggestions on instances to move over to?

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can still access r piracy on Reddit, i thought lemmy.world had more freedom of speech than corporate sellouts. πŸ’€

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[–] Zatore@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Honestly fuck off. I came to Lemmy because I'm sick of people telling me what I can view and how I can view it. Guess I'll go find another instance again.

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[–] tcj@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't understand how lemmy world has removed them, aren't those all communities on different servers? How is this our problem?

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The copyblight strikes again.

This decision was the logical one, however, it was only rendered logical because of the awful state of copyright law.

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[–] deadinside91@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I wish there was more transparency about this decision before action was taken, in this case it's kind of understandable due to the servers being hosted in Germany and them having really draconian piracy laws. Just hoping that this won't lead to a chain reaction of other communities being removed due to legal complaints.

In the meantime, happy to get my piracy content over at db0.

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[–] esty@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

is this the new most downvoted post on lemmy?

[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I am strongly opposed to the way this is handled. Discussing piracy may not be censored in any way and being afraid of shady lawsuits is not good, this is one of the main responsibilities of a server admin of such a grand operation. Especially so for what is effectively an image board which is grey zoning on copyright all the time. It is fine to ban communities who direct link to well known piracy sites, both because of the legal and perhaps ethical complications this brings.

We need now more than ever platforms where we defend basic freedoms as discussion of hot topics. I view the negative impact of this as banning discussion on drugs. Disclaimers about dangers and help lines for addiction should be forced, as the banning of purchase options, however please stay out of experiences, discussions and warnings on them.

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit 2.0...already migrating off this censorship.

You can use LASIM app (Windows/Mac/Linux) to migrate your profile and settings to another instance. Highly recommend.

[–] Tired8281@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

What are your thoughts on communities about drugs? Pretty big topic for me, although the drug subs mostly haven't moved here yet, is that because you ban them? If so, I'm wasting my time waiting for them here.

[–] saga@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Iβ€˜m absolutely pro pirated software, as in many cases DRM violates many personal rights, so this decision will lead to the deletion of my account. I never support censorship. Gbye.

[–] GameEnder@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pathetic. Defeats the entire point if federated networks.

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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So, in order to subscribe to those communities I should create another account in a different instance that either has them or is federated with them, right….? Any workaround for that? This sounds like it’s going to be a real chore to follow and will push a lot of people out of lemmy in general

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[–] orangeNgreen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the update!

[–] Lummy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Goodbye y’all I’m out

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[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From what I can see it is informational only. There is no direct content linking, this is not illegal.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There is a local piracy-focused community at !piracy@lemmy.world. It's pretty dead, of course, only 4 posts ever, but still. How does this square with those others being blocked?

You have won my goodwill with your track record of decisions so far. I don't agree with this one, but it is not a dealbreaker for me. Thank you for getting around to announcing this in a public space, but as you say, please make sure to do this first next time something of this caliber is put through.

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it a liability when the discussion happened outside of lemmy.world?

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[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Unpinned hoping this goes away?

[–] iquanyin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

are platforms liable for user behavior?

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