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Red Hat stops all upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd (hadess.net)

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[–] ssm@programming.dev 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What you are referring to as Red Hat is in fact IBM/Red Hat, or as I've recently come to calling it, IBM + Red Hat

[–] Paralda@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I really hope journalists stop called IBM Red Hat. Red Hat is dead.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you get when you merge a company with IBM?

IBM.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 14 points 1 year ago

You get what you fuckin deserve!

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Annoying commercials about "the cloud" and some robot they built 30 years ago.

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[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hope that backfire on IBM.

[–] woelkchen@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, it will but so slowly and further down the road, nobody at IBM will see the connection. When Fedora (or desktop Linux in general) will be slightly less appealing to people who in 10 years will become the decision makers at IT departments, it'll weaken the position of Linux and in turn the commercial support providers.

Guess, everyone who does not yet own a Steam Deck needs to get one because Valve seems to be the biggest commercial proponent of consumer GNU/Linux.

[–] FreeBooteR69@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All these corporations looking to kill off their own relevance. They all in the same death cult or something?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They all in the same death cult or something?

Yeah, capitalism it seems like.

I guess asking for sustainable business practices is too much to ask for from the system. "Sufficient" money is never good enough. Gotta try to get all the money, even if it means burning down everything one holds dear.

Hell, the system is literally willing to burn down the whole world in pursuit of more. The more you think about it, the more senseless it all becomes.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Never forget, in a capitalist system, every firm will always eventually try to get as many people as possible, to pay as much as possible, for as little as possible.

Enshitification

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

It's called enshittification - Cory Doctorow invented the term.

[–] woelkchen@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

All these corporations looking to kill off their own relevance. They all in the same death cult or something?

IBM uses mostly Windows in house, so they are not interested in desktop Linux and apparently then nobody else would be either.

[–] Remontoire@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] sombriks@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

this is bad

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks for linking the actual article!

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, they just keep lowering the value paying them brings. Execs barely want to pay them in the first place, why would I as the engineer or IT solutioner care about putting money towards support if they keep abandoning projects...

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[–] aport@programming.dev 38 points 1 year ago

Farewell, Red Hat. Thanks for all your good work throughout the years. Sucks you sold out to IBM

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, Fedora and Gnome were embraced and extended by IBM.

You know what's next now.

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, Ubuntu will fork all of these, then trash them, introduce their alternatives, then drop support in 5 years.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Introducing unity 2

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was my thought exactly. Work is a RHEL shop and I had settled on Fedora after distro hopping. Ubuntu was for the new guys getting into Linux.

My self hosted services were all CentOS and more recently Rocky/Alma. After the shenanigans RH pulled to make their source harder to obtain, I'm working through my personal ansible scripts to get up on Debain. I'll never go back to RHEL or the forks.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fedora is freaking amazing. Fresh & stable software, super clean UI, huge community...

Debian has stable but old software (kernel and packages), clean UI, huge community. But it's harder to use, since you have to make a few more manual steps to leave it at where Fedora comes as default.

Fedora will always have a place as long as Red Hat stops shitting on it.

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't mind the old kernel, packages, etc. However, one of my biggest problems with debain so far is that SELinux isn't installed by default..... I've installed and enabled it but it doesn't seem to let me SSH in. I'm still troubleshooting but its annoying to have to fight with it.

I'd love to continue to use Fedora but I have no faith in RedHat. They don't give a shit about their community anymore, including Fedora, so I believe its just a matter of time before that's dead too.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Fedora will probably get forked by the companies supporting enterprise Linux.

I am even more concerned about GNOME, since that will affect the majority of Linux distros or spins.

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[–] s4if@lemmy.my.id 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Welp.. Gnome will lost many of their contributor/maintainer.. Well, at least KDE folks is backed by Novell(SUSE) and XFCE is purely maintained by community already. It seems Linux desktop is still safe. lol

But this was it's year!

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SUSE was an independent company before, during, and after its 5 years under Novell. That's a weird attribution to Novell when SUSE has always been the contributing company to Linux.

[–] s4if@lemmy.my.id 3 points 1 year ago

Oh, sorry.. I thought they are one from the start.. thx for correcting me.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Corpo shills were never on the team pleb... just so happened it was good for them to do something that benefited FOSS. Now that is over, it seems.

[–] staticlifetime@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

power-profiles-daemon is now archived? Dammit, that was a big one for Fedora.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am a little concerned to step in front of the hate machine here but this feels like a continued move away from app dev to more infrastructural stuff as previously announced by them. If so, I am all for it as not everybody is going to use Rhythmbox or LibreOffice but we can all use HDR and other core tech that Red Hat will develop instead. They are one of the few Linux companies that can fund these large, technical projects. Having them working on apps feels like a waste of their engineering potential.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

But if they are moving towards infrastructure I doubt HDR will be on their radar - or any desktop related technology for that matter

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, The Enterprise Linux war is just getting better and better!

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[–] choroalp@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

There is no Way this is going to improve anything Red Hat's side

[–] phoenix591@lemmy.phoenix591.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why did you link to a kbin view of another post right here on !linux@lemmy.ml ?

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It happened before (on reddit), it will happen again (on Lemmy).

So say we all.

[–] secret301@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can someone tell me what this means for fedora?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very little I suspect. These specific packages may evolve less quickly but will still be available. None of them were Fedora specific.

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