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All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not a bad idea but there are flaws and this also doesn't seem to address the issue of pricing or availability.

  • So you can remove the battery, will you be able to buy one.
  • They could prevent 3rd parties from making batteries that work.
  • They could just not sell battery replacements.
  • They could add more parts needed, like seals, screws that strip too easily, that annoying sticky tape etc.
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[–] ineedaunion@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will literally anyone in the EU help me immigrate? ill do anything to get out of Murica.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should make a business out of that lol

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

You can literally do that with any business. Start up a business and hire people from abroad to work for you in the country and just sponsor their visa while they go through the process. That's one of the more common ways that people use, that and marrying a native.

[–] Squander@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

EU is killing it right now. Charging port regulation and now removable batteries in everything. If companies are forced to produce different models for the EU maybe just maybe it will be cost effective to just make all their phones with removable batteries. One can hope, cause you know the US wont pass that type of consumer protection regulation.

[–] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 9 points 1 year ago

I see something like this every few years.EU has to make a fine so heavy that it's impossible to just pay as a tax of doing business.

Unless that's all it really is.

[–] Polymath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried Ctrl+F searching to see whether anyone here had pasted the link to the law, and didn't find anything, so I went to Presearch and found this, which appears to be the official European Union log for it, and has attached PDFs at the end with what seem to be the nitty-gritty for further reading...

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/07/10/council-adopts-new-regulation-on-batteries-and-waste-batteries/

If I've found an errant page that just looks official, please link something better for those looking for the legalese

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[–] Hagels_Bagels@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I remember when apple put out a software update to intentionally throttle the phone's processor, to save charge on it's irreplacable battery. I hope this prevents companies doing this sort of shit as well.

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think apple will comply by including a dongle battery that can be replaced but no one will actually carry with their phone

[–] Teritz@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Waterprood Devuces do not need a Changeable Batterie because its a Loophole in the Paper

[–] Akeem@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

I hope this loophole only applies for waterproof devices that keep their warranty if they have water damage. The current system for all(?) IP68 devices is that water damage can be detected with liquid damage indicators and is seen as an accident. Accidents aren't covered by warranty so waterproofness of a device means .. nothing. As a side note, a Pixel 7 pro isn't waterproof.

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[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (19 children)

You can already replace your own iPhone battery without any technical expertise. I hope the law is more specific than that, because there are many things OEMs can do to comply and still make it a giant pain in the ass to do.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people can't put on a screen protector properly. I wouldn't perhaps go as far as claiming replacing iPhone battery takes no technical expertise. It's not hard but not quite easy either. In the case of iPhone there's also that even if you do it properly the device still detects it's not the original Apple approved battey so they limit functions on your phone such as battery health, true tone etc. New MacBooks does this aswell.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

God bless the European union, doing the kind of consumer protection that America won't.

[–] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Looking forward to seeing If companies will just do the bare minimum to pass or if we'll see some actual innovation. It would be cool to be able to buy spare batteries, that are quick to replace and easy to carry around along with a charging station or something so you can always have a full battery with you.

I bet The Apple battery, just a replacement or a dedicated module like I said above, will be starting at like $249

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[–] Frub@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

As long as they can engineer a water resistant phone with these guidelines I'm all for it.

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have in the past and then they decided, no, let's say it's too difficult and use it as one of the excuses to guarantee limited lifetime of a product.

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[–] revs@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When Apple want to, they can design amazing things. So I look forward to see if they come up with a clever Apple-like way to do this. Or maybe they just make it easier to remove the back.

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I look forward to see if they come up with a clever Apple-like way to do this

Battery DRM?

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[–] saltedFish@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm afraid they will still find ways to make replacements expensive

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