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We Are Not The Same. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by Godric@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao. I feel really bad for Alec (and everyone involved in the incident) obviously but this is hilarious.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OOTL, what happened?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's an actor who shot someone with a gun that was supposed to be loaded with blanks.

[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Don't leave out the fact that he was the producer that spent as little money as possible on the staff that was in charge of making sure the props on set were safe.

[–] Hyggyldy@sffa.community 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't take that armourer that fucked up to the firing range.

[+] uphillbothways@kbin.social -34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

She wasn't running around with the gun, pointing it at people, making bang-bang noises, thinking they were funny or something.
Alec Baldwin definitely should have ended up with more of the blame than he did. Pointing a real gun at people and pulling the trigger, even if you think it's not loaded, is fucking scary and terrifying behavior for exactly the reasons that resulted in this case.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Alec Baldwin definitely should have ended up with more of the blame than he did. Pointing a real gun at people and pulling the trigger, even if you think it's not loaded

For the incident in question at least, wasn't he directed to do so for a cinematic shot? Being the reason why the bullet hit 2 people filming (behind the camera).

As in it was the armorer's job to make sure the weapon didn't even have debris that could make a blank dangerous (being loaded with live rounds is a much bigger mistake).

And if he was not supposed to pull the trigger, then it likely should've been completely empty.

[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alec was also the producer, and responsible for hiring the sub-par armorer.

[+] uphillbothways@kbin.social -22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

He was "rehearsing" in between shots, low key horsing around.

From wikipedia:

While the trio behind the monitor were repositioning the camera to remove a shadow, Baldwin began explaining to the crew how he planned to draw the firearm.[8] He said, "So, I guess I'm gonna take this out, pull it, and go, 'Bang!'"

Link to quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_shooting_incident#:~:text=While%20the%20trio%20behind%20the%20monitor%20were%20repositioning%20the%20camera%20to%20remove%20a%20shadow%2C%20Baldwin%20began%20explaining%20to%20the%20crew%20how%20he%20planned%20to%20draw%20the%20firearm.%5B8%5D%20He%20said%2C%20%22So%2C%20I%20guess%20I%27m%20gonna%20take%20this%20out%2C%20pull%20it%2C%20and%20go%2C%20%27Bang!%27%22%5B

[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There shouldn't be a loaded gun anywhere near a film set. That's the problem, not him practicing his scene between camera rolls

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

So he was rehearsing with a gun that wasn't supposed to have live ammunition? Is that your argument here?

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My point is that clearly safety on set was flawed, and not just Baldwin's doing. It sounds like where the gun was pointed was in the script, so some precautions behind the camera likely could've prevented that as well.

Also that quote doesn't really mean anything, especially not without someone telling him that he's not supposed to fire. If it was a continuous scene and pulled the trigger before being scripted to do so (different camera angle with nobody at-risk) I might see it being partially his fault, but even still that does not change the fact that he was told it was safe and someone else put real bullets in the gun before that.

Edited for clarity/less repetition.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was in between takes. No script. He was just going over the scene in his head and shot someone. He definitely shouldn't have fired then. And, whether he thought it was loaded or not, pointing a gun at people is threatening and shouldn't have been done. It's total bullshit they dropped the charges against him.

The armorer definitely should have some fault, but no one would have been shot if Alec Baldwin hadn't pointed the gun at them. He was directing the barrel in the location of people. He had his finger on the trigger.

[–] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kind of get that, but if he hadn't pulled the trigger between takes, then when it came to actually filming the take, the real bullet would've just been shot then, right?

I understand it's a bit weird to fire in between takes but it would've been fired one way or another, unless I'm misunderstanding something about the situation

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he'd fired it during the actual take it wouldn't have been pointed at a person though. They have clear lanes to fire blanks since they spew out powder and dust, and if anything gets lodged in the barrel it can become a projectile. It's why they use dummy weapons when 'firing' with another actor in the scene.

[–] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Oh I didn't know they used clear lanes for blanks and dummy guns for "firing" at actors. Thanks for informing me

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know who Alec Baldwin is, but I'm guessing he's not flatulent

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

80s/90s Hollywood megastar turned B-List actor/serial Saturday Night Live host who hasn't lost any of his ego since becoming less of a household name.

Also, while filming Rust, he accidentally killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injured screenwriter Joel Souza with the same shot from what was supposed to be a prop gun filled with blanks.

[–] agentshags@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I'm sort of surprised. Am I getting old?

[–] SlowNPC@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Shots fired

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 year ago

I stand behind Alec Baldwin because he's facing the Pacific Ocean and I'm in Europe. We are not the same.

[–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His words were followed by a bang from the gun as a lead bullet ripped through Ms Hutchins before landing in the shoulder of the film’s director, Joel Souza.

Blood began pouring from Ms Hutchins’ chest as she fell backward into the head electrician and Mr Souza crumpled to the ground clutching his shoulder.

The 42-year-old cinematographer uttered her last words as crew members crowded around her and a boom operator locked eyes, telling her: “Oh, that was no good.”

Mr Baldwin looked on in horror and repeatedly yelled: “What the f*** just happened,” according to the witnesses

this is literally the funniest shit I have ever heard
great job OP and to all the upvoters, you deserve to consume oxygen

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You a member of a church featured on the SPLC website?

I can't imagine anyone else trying to be this morally superior while simultaneously stating half a thousand people all deserve to die for having a different sense of humor.