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EDPS launches pilot phase of two social media platforms | European Data Protection Supervisor

EU voice (Mastodon) EU video (Peertube)

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Wait, not that NATO was so united? why don't they trust Uncle Sam's platforms? Why are they afraid of Musk, isn't he the real life Tony Stark who will take us to Mars in green rockets (not the ones he smokes)?

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[–] Ignacio@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) launches today the public pilot phase of two social media platforms: EU Voice and EU Video.

The launch of the pilot phase of EU Voice and EU Video will help the EDPS to test the platforms in practice by collecting feedback from participating EUIs. The EDPS hopes that this first step will mark a continuity in the use of privacy-compliant social media platforms.

It's a start, and I'm happy about that. Let's see how it develops, and if more EU institutions join the fediverse in the future.

[–] Tryp@fuckreddit.tryp.digital 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How the fuck is peertube privacy compliant especially when the gov is running it? You're sharing your IP with groups of strangers and the government everytime you watch a video. You've went from one corporate point of failure all the way to handing your data directly the government and everyone with internet access theoretically which includes the corporations!

https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/opc-actions-and-decisions/research/explore-privacy-research/2013/ip_201305/

I've wanted to setup a video site for a while since DMT extraction videos keep getting removed along with other chemistry stuff but the P2P nature of peertube stops me. People don't know that's what's happening when using peertube they are just visiting a site in their mind.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I visited the EU Video instance and it looks like the P2P option is off by default.

[–] Tryp@fuckreddit.tryp.digital 4 points 2 years ago

Well I stand corrected, thanks for the info! Definitely the better option to default too.

[–] axeltherabbit@lemmy.wiredentrypoint.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You’re sharing your IP with groups of strangers and the government everytime you watch a video.

People don’t know that’s what’s happening when using peertube they are just visiting a site in their mind.

P2P nature of peertube stops me

You can disable p2p video streaming in your instance if it worries you.

People know they are sharing their IP because there is a disclamer active in most instances.

I don't personally see a better alternative and IP can be masked in many ways.

[–] Tryp@fuckreddit.tryp.digital 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was unaware you could disable that until now, I haven't taken a deeper look into peertube in a while so it may have been before the feature. They added the client toggle about 2 years ago

That does make me more positive on it. I did some testing now visiting instances and it does appear the vast majority have it enabled by default (everyone I looked at) and the warning message about it only appears when you're watching a video so too little too late for me. The warning message is also just a tiny bar along the bottom, I didn't even notice it for a while and I thought there wasn't any warnings, if you fullscreen right after starting the video you'd never see it.

Definitely better than I initially stated but I still think the P2P part needs more explicit opt in with the possibility of throttling connections if they decline to be fair to the admins.

The only other alternative is something like https://odysee.com/ which is based on LBRY a crypto so not exactly my 1st choice but it does have the benefit of offloading the P2P portion to the service hoster. Modern video content is so large that it makes serving and storage of the content a massive overhead so I understand the need for P2P for sure but I think it should be more explicit in how it happens.

P2P can be disabled everywhere in your account settings, I'm not sure about when you are not logged in tho, you should open an enanchement issue on github about it

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

It's basically the fastest way for EU to gain some digital sovereignty. I think it's a great development all around. This will bring a lot of new users to the Fediverse and will also help legitimize it as a serious alternative to centralized commercial platforms in the mainstream.

[–] angarabebesi@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago
[–] Echedenyan@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)