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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Ekybio@lemmy.world to c/autism@lemmy.world
 

*Edit: I checked some of the stuff more out in detail. While some concepts on this are valid and backed up by sience, others like RSD are not. Use this as a springboard for learning, not as a valid source in itself. Yes it says so in the corner already. But spelling it out might help.

People are more complicated then a diagram from the internet. Never forget that.

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[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing about this is scientific.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, I would say it's kind of bollocks. And I'm in at least two of these groups.

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[–] nyoooom@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What if I have stuff from all three circles

[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

These are all spectrums. Experiencing all of these symptoms is normal. Experiencing these symptoms frequently and with such high degree that it impacts your daily life - that is a disorder.

I am not a doctor.

[–] sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

You're a lizard, Mary!

[–] readthemessage@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had suspected being gifted could have helped mask autism and ADHD (a psychiatrist even said "you have a PhD, you do not have ADHD"), but I had never seen it like this and it makes me even more suspicious.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See a different doctor and have them examine you with a spotlight on ADHD symptoms. There's remarkably few doctors that are good at diagnosing ADHD, especially in certain presentations.

There's a lot of common misconceptions about ADHD and it's signs/symptoms, and those misconceptions are not exclusive to people without a PhD. So get a second or third opinion.

I'm on the gifted side, with an more inward presentation of ADHD, it wasn't until I was 39 that I even spoke to a medical professional about it. I was mediocre in school (often without trying, because I couldn't focus or sit long enough to do homework or study), and as I've gotten older and into my career in a highly technical field, job demands have made it much harder to mask my ADHD symptoms. I started treatment by medication and I've been able to sit and focus and do my job better and easier than before. I still have challenges, medication isn't a cure; medication has simply given me better control over where my focus lies, if I'm not working to direct my energy and focus into the right work, then I'm no better off.

Diagnosis is the first step, so if your doctor isn't up to speed enough to know the signs and symptoms, find one who is.

Until recently, adult ADHD was not considered to be a thing but evidence has shown that to be very wrong. A lot of people were told that people just grew out of being ADHD, and some do, but not everyone.

Your achievements do not and should not have any bearing on whether you are affected. You can have ADHD and be very well decorated in your achievements, even if you've never been properly diagnosed or treated for it.

The main factor here should be whether you think that you may have it, and whether or not having it may be holding you back. Make a choice whether that's something you believe, and go from there.

[–] readthemessage@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago

I'll definitely look into it, thank you!

[–] PochoHipster@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you are truly a beautiful animal.

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[–] Agamemnon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Posted this a couple weeks ago in /AuDHD. I was wondering how long it would take to circulate and be reposted here. 😄

[–] Ringmasterincestuous@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you know where it’s supposed to be reposted to next? 🤨

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We already had adhd and autism so obviously !rickandmorty and !archlinux are next for the gifted people.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Remember to add the @instance.tld so we can click the link :)

[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for reminding me where I downloaded it a few weeks ago :3

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

My 6yo was watching Avatar 2 for the first time and the scene where the humans are burning down the forests, and he immediately asks me “how can there so much fire if people have to wear masks to breathe?”

Last year we saw a pickup merging on the highway with a balloon arch in the back and he immediately realized what was about to happen.

He’s very empathetic (he is vegetarian and can’t fathom eating meat. He literally cries over the meat section of a supermarket, though he’s a bit dramatic). And he’s always asking me about complex things like black holes and gravity and inertia and tectonics.

Is he…gifted? How do we find out?

[–] turbodrooler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Ontario, Canada, if they still do it the same way as they did in the 80s/90s, they do a test in grade 3 which can determine giftedness. After the test I was sent to do a psycho-educational assessment, then sent off to another school with a gifted program. I was in gifted classes until the end of grade 10. I definitely made some great friends in that program, but I think I would have been better off being taught how to survive in the real world, compared to the experience of having your own special class. There is no “special class” in the workplace. Or, you can probably just go directly to a psychologist for a psycho-educational assessment, but there is usually a cost involved.

[–] br3w0r@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Schools don't teach how to live anyway, so you missed nothing

[–] turbodrooler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mean instead of the effort spent on a gifted program, they could have put effort into helping neurodivergent kids to develop strategies to exist and thrive within a class (world) designed for neurotypicals.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you made friends, it taught you social skills.

The problem with gifted students is that they can struggle connecting with those who don't enjoy abstract thinking, theory, etc, but at the same time it was one period of your school day, you had all the others including recess and lunch to learn that.

[–] turbodrooler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not talking about social skills, and when I went to school, gifted classes were full time, from grades 4-8.

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[–] Agamemnon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's a good question to ask your local pediatrician.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ha, yeah I was one of them. Be kind to him.

[–] Teodomo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've always felt strongly identified with parts of the autism and ADHD symptoms but not with all of either so I always assumed I was just self-diagnosing or was simply a bit too close with both spectrums without fully being into either or something like that. It's hard to discern also because I've been depressed for some time and I'm asexual so sometimes I just attribute some of my non-typical traits to that.

But in the last 5 years I feel like I'm deteriorating at a growing rate and doing even the smallest things is incredibly hard for me, even things that I used to like like reading or playing videogames, not to say things like working or intense socializing. I know that getting an official diagnosis is the way to go but I'm in South America where the infrastructure/system for all this is even lesser than in Europe/USA and I'm broke anyways. My current goal is to work to get enough money to survive and get the diagnosis, even if it feels like am working at 15% capacity.

In the meantime, does anyone know of some kind of scientific test or resource that might help me clear my mind in regards to what I am/have? I promise I'll get an official diagnosis as soon as I can but I feel like even identifying that I probably have a ton of ADHD or whatever it is and getting some commonly-held tips about my particular condition could help me lots right now.

[–] Agamemnon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shot in the dark, not a doctor yadda yadda

Sounds like it could be burnout. (not only workaholics can get one) You can try some mitigation strategies for that and see if they help you.

[–] Kikkertje@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

If you have trauma, it could also be cptsd.

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[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I feel attacked.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know I had ADHD in my childhood, diagnosed, medicated for a while, but was told I "grew out of it" in my teens. Not sure if that's the right term, but I was indeed told I no longer have it.

Been doing some research, and thinking more and more about whether I have mild autism/asbergers. Does anyone know any reliable and discrete ways of figuring out if you might be on the spectrum or not? Something I can keep to myself at least for the time being? Or is asking my doctor the only way? Are specialists that specifically assess autism spectrum a thing? And is it possible to go to one of them without having to be referred by my primary care doctor?

[–] aJazzyFeel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was recommended https://embrace-autism.com/autism-tests/ and it's given me quite a bit of information about myself. Wish I could help more. Keep reaching out and eventually the right answer will find you! Good luck on your journey. Don't give up.

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[–] Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh god I'm definitely esaily bored

[–] puddlexplorer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ADHD here, and I think level 1 ASD (psych appointment few weeks).

ADHD – "Ability to respond quickly in crisis situations/emergencies"? What?

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, this is when I'm at my highest functioning. Unfortunately that means it's easy to get addicted to stress.

[–] Agamemnon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's "common" traits. Not "must have" traits. or is the confusion about interpreting what a "crisis situation/emergency" is in this context?

[–] puddlexplorer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

confusion about interpreting what a "crisis situation/emergency" is in this context

Something like hyperfocus as the deadline approaches?

[–] AtomicPurple@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like 90% of these apply to me, though I've somehow failed every ADHD assessment I've ever taken.

[–] dreadgoat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everybody's a little ADHD, and everybody's a little crazy. You have to reach a particular threshold before you qualify as "clinical."

If you are able to function independently, then you probably won't be clinically diagnosed even if you have some struggles here and there.

Consider the difference between a person with OCD who feels really uncomfortable when they aren't able to perform their compulsions vs. a person who suffers a complete mental breakdown and loses all ability to self-regulate for hours or days.

[–] trafguy@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are able to function independently, then you probably won’t be clinically diagnosed even if you have some struggles here and there.

I disagree. I have official diagnoses for both ADHD and ASD and am mostly functional most of the time. If I earned enough, I'd be living on my own. I was diagnosed as an adult within the past few years while working nearly full time and I made it on time to each of the several appointments that went into getting that diagnosis. If what you say is true, I doubt the assessor would have been willing to give a diagnosis.

[–] AtomicPurple@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I have an autism diagnosis, and I'm pretty sure I have ADHD as well. Literally almost everything on that chart applies to me in a substantial capacity. I've never sought a clinical diagnosis as an adult, but if I were to I'm fairly certain I would get one.

The ADHD assessments I had in school were all the stare at a screen and hit a button when a dot appears kind. I think they were expecting me to get bored and mess up, but that's the kind of task I'm good a hyper-focusing on short periods of time. One time the assessor told me I couldn't have ADHD because my average reaction time was one of the best she'd ever seen. I think that type of assessment is fundamentally flawed.

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[–] turbodrooler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] NYPariah@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Very helpful.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is quite revealing. I'm hyper focused on some of my past and present behavior now and feel like a damn hypochondriac at this point.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Tag yourself, I'm Processing speed impacted

[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I was diagnosed autistic last year at age 52. I've also usually been the socially awkward brains of whatever group I'm in.

Seems pretty accurate to me. Autistic + gifted.

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