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I have been thinking about this a lot lately , but money does not make any sense , it is just an ideology or an idea in a paper form and still we value everything in form of that idea!

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Money is a way to prioritize work according to what is most needed and wanted, without having to centralize communications.

Also it makes bartering asynchronous. I can effectively barter peaches for coffee without needing to find someone who needs my peaches and has excess coffee.

It exponentially reduces the improbability of finding working trades. In that way it’s kind of like a catalyst, reducing the activation energy. It’s like a superconductor for economic signals. Or a reaction surface that helps molecules find each other and react.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Money makes sense if you look at the history of it. People used to barter, but what if you didn't have what the other person needed? Valuable items were used as an intermediary when trading, like jewellery made of precious metal or just coins of precious metals.

Having a lot of money sitting around isn't safe so it went into a bank vault. The banks gave out slips to show how much money you had and people would trade these paper slips instead of the metal coins.

Eventually though the fractional banking system allowed money to be created from nothing, which meant the paper slips no longer represented precious metal in a vault. So now money doesn't represent anything besides a promise. Personally, I don't know if going back to trading bits of gold and silver really changes anything than trading bits of 0s and 1s.

[–] motorwerks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

It doesn't, nor would anyone choose to return to that paradigm. It may be forced upon society by a critical mass event. I think the more likely result, say 500 years in the future, is that no form of money exists. Think Star Trek. I just think there's too many people & not enough work to continue w/ paid labor that allows the idea of money to persist.

[–] Today@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nkiru@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. But it's even better than that. I can trade the IOU from you with someone else. And no one ever has to pay it back directly.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Money is nothing but trust. When that trust is gone, money has no value. Take a look at Zimbabwe.

[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Money is time. You use your own time to earn money so that you can buy time from others for their goods and services.

[–] jungekatz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So billionaires time worth wayyyyy more than our time ?

[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He does not work himself. His employees do with their time. And the buyers of his goods (cars, phones…) make him richer with their money (time).

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And it's easier than chickens.

I mean you could say the same about anything really. Govt is just a collective agreed upon system. Individual countries are just arbitrary lines drawn that only persist because we gave those lines meaning.

Everything about civilization only has importance because we give it all importance.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It starts making sense once you try to imagine a world without it. And I mean a functioning world - not a "would be nice" version of it.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I can definitely imagine a functioning world without it. But what you mean is a functioning capitalist world, which yeah, would be impossible without money. That doesn't mean we couldn't have a perfectly functioning post-scarcity world without money, it just wouldn't fit into your narrow idea of what the world should look like.

And that's not an insult to you, it's something most people suffer from. We've done things one way so long, the idea of doing it any other way is so alien to us, we reject it as impossible. But we've done things before that people thought were impossible.

[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read the Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson.

[–] pozbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Man, I'm too baroque to buy any books.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

If you want an easy and entertaining read on this topic, try Money: The True Story of a Made-Up Thing. Money is fiction, but it's a helpful fiction.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Money is a slice of the country's economic output.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

money is a form of debt

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

communist detected