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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Don't get me wrong. I love Linux and FOSS. I have been using and installing distros on my own since I was 12. Now that I'm working in tech-related positions, after the Reddit migration happened, etc. I recovered my interest in all the Linux environment. I use Ubuntu as my main operating system in my Desktop, but I always end up feeling very limited. There's always software I can't use properly (and not just Windows stuff), some stuff badly configured with weird error messages... last time I was not able to even use the apt command. Sometimes I lack time and energy for troubleshooting and sometimes I just fail at it.

I usually end up in need of redoing a fresh install until it breaks up again. Maybe Linux is not good for beginners working full time? Maybe we should do something like that Cisco course that teaches you the basic commands?

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's like so many other things, it's simple when you know it well but when you don't have a lot of experience it's very daunting. A lot depends on understanding the file system, like what is the difference between /run and /media and / and /root? So much is command line with some pretty arcane commands and parameters. And not knowing what tools there are to help, and not knowing how to fix things when they break.

[–] eshep@social.trom.tf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@dan1101 @leninmummy I love the use of "arcane" in place of "archaic" ...brilliant!

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

arcane: understood by few; mysterious or secret

archaic: very old or old-fashioned

I did mean arcane but archaic could fit too. I don't really have a problem with old as long as it's good, but not that many people out of general population understand what Linux commands there are and how to fully utilize them.

[–] eshep@social.trom.tf 1 points 1 year ago

@dan1101 I figured it was used with that meaning. It just gave me a chuckle cause I initially read it with its darker meaning. ;)

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For any linux distro you can search and find the answer.

Tell me for what Windows "distro" you can do the same?

[–] JGWentworth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhhhh... Every single one. You can easily Google it, and chances are you will find a forum post about it somewhere because everyone uses Windows. Windows even has a multi billion dollar international company providing 24/7 support for it, for free. If you have a problem with Linux, good fucking luck finding help with it.

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhhhh… Every single one. You can easily Google it, and chances are you will find a forum

lol wut CHANCES ARE?

Chances are I can't find the Windows 10 kernel source code on github.

Prove me wrong.

[–] rivalary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying; a good portion of the issues you encounter on Windows aren't solvable as they are in the design or you have to wait for Microsoft to fix the issues, if they ever do. A lot of the design isn't even for the customer, it's for the advertisers or other interests. That said, you're coming off pretty aggressive and I don't think you'll get many to consider your argument when brought forth in such a manner.

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

That said, you’re coming off pretty aggressive

This person I am responding to has no idea what a kernel is. That said, he or she should not be giving some questionably authoritative answer (which is clearly wrong.)

So are you going to post that Windows kernel source code? I'll hold my breath.