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According to Wikipedia:

The goal of the C2PA is to define and establish an open, royalty-free industry standard that allows reliable statements about the provenance of digital content, such as its technical origin, its editing history or the identity of the publisher.

Has anyone explored this standard before? I'm curious about privacy implications, whether it's a truly open standard, whether this will become mandatory (by law or because browsers refuse to display untagged images), and if they plan on preventing people from reverse engineering their camera to learn how to tag AI-generated photos as if they were real.

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[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 65 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If their proposed solution is not completely open sourced and the source visible to everyone, then I have no interest in it.

[–] ZickZack@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

They will make it open source, just tremendously complicated and expensive to comply with.
In general, if you see a group proposing regulations, it's usually to cement their own positions: e.g. openai is a frontrunner in ML for the masses, but doesn't really have a technical edge against anyone else, therefore they run to congress to "please regulate us".
Regulatory compliance is always expensive and difficult, which means it favors people that already have money and systems running right now.

There are so many ways this can be broken in intentional or unintentional ways. It's also a great way to detect possible e.g. government critics to shut them down (e.g. if you are Chinese and everything is uniquely tagged to you: would you write about Tiananmen square?), or to get monopolies on (dis)information.
This is not literally trying to force everyone to get a license for producing creative or factual work but it's very close since you can easily discriminate against any creative or factual sources you find unwanted.

In short, even if this is an absolutely flawless, perfect implementation of what they want to do, it will have catastrophic consequences.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I bet it won't. And I bet the implementations of all 3 are out of spec, and send your shit to everyone else that will buy it.

[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a good bet! That means I'll have zero interest in it and will not use it.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got fed up with MS bullshit and moved to Linux. Replaced illustrator with Inkscape and Photoshop with Photopea until I can learn how to use GIMP's unintuitive UI.

[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is a learning curve with GIMP. Once you get past it, GIMP is great. It does about 90-95% of what Photoshop will do and that's good enough for me. I'm fully on Linux as well. I run Arch and swear by it. I also like Open and Free BSD.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm an amateur macro photographer and I love taking photos and doing light tweeking to them to make them more presentable for your average person but I am definitely not going to spend the required hours upon hours to learn to do the simplest things in gimp and dark table that i can learn PS and LR in a 10 min video or less.

That being said I also refuse to pay a god dam subscription fee for something I used to own outright 20 years ago especially considering it can't even stack or slab photos even 10% as good as zerene or helicon.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

And even then I wouldn't trust those companies.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It will not matter I'd it is open source but it is backed into the HW. You will be their removed anyways with no way to change it.

[–] tables@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

You will be their removed anyways with no way to change it.

Did you type removed or does some system in the fediverse automatically censor words?