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With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.

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[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hmmm, on the bright side, with lemmy going mainstream maybe some of this culture (including privacy and FOSS) becomes more and more openly discussed.

[–] torres@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As much as I love Lemmy I don't see it going mainstream :/
It's too weird for the general user

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I agree. Arguably reddit isn't even mainstream, and it is exponentially larger than Lemmy now and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

I'm really loving Lemmy, but it is not even remotely a factor if we are having a conversation about things that are mainstream enough to reflect popular opinion.

[–] tqgibtngo@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Arguably reddit isn’t even mainstream ...

... with just 0.91% of US social media visits ~~this year~~ in March this year, if this isn't wrong:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/265773/market-share-of-the-most-popular-social-media-websites-in-the-us/

FB 53.09%, Twit 16.25%, IG 13.85%, ..., Reddit 0.91% ...

[Edited to fix my error.]

[I have no affiliation with the linked site.]

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 1 year ago

That's US based. I don't have stats handy, but I remember seeing that huge amounts of Reddit traffic are outside the US, and from anecdotal experience, limiting the study further to younger demographics would drastically change these results.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Reddit was too weird for most people until they ended up being in their Google search results for most topics. It will take a while but the Fediverse will eventually reach a level of popularity and mainstream utility.

[–] subway@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

We could have it both, where big instances like LemmyWorld or BeeHaw becomes the well known public interface, while they maintain federation with smaller instances.

[–] torres@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I mean I love Lemmy but I don't see it going mainstream :/
It's too weird for the general user

[–] gothicdecadence@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The irony of this comment duplicating 😅 but yeah you're right, there needs to be a lot of streamlining first

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

I've seen this issue hundreds of times on red dot

[–] torres@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

jsjajsj yeah, Jerboa froze on me so I had to retype the comment. I didn't realise it had already gone through.

[–] gothicdecadence@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I had that issue with Jerboa a lot so I switched to Liftoff, it's much smoother!

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure why it’s weird, it’s just reddit but open source?

[–] Anoril@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Whole idea is weird and as of now its lacking features. Like no ability to look on the other instance local feed without registrating there (at least not in apps i use). Also needing to type whole adress with instance name if you want some community from other instance is unhandy.

Also, as far as i understand, there can be the same communities on different instances, so you could subscribe to, idk, cat community on lemmy.ml, but not see anything from cat community on lemmy.world. If its true its kinda stupid, i think there should be a way to associate comunities across fedarated instances.

Hell, even registration is kinda messed up. As lemmy.world shown, you easilly can sign up on overpopulated instances which would drop several times a day. Not sure, it probably fixed for now, but that was a problem when i started.

So far i like the idea and want it to succeed and become popular. But with how elitist people here are usually towards users from other platforms and with overall roughness it kinda seems unlikelly. Maybe it will change when current apps get better, or reddit app developers make versions for lemmy, idk.

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you click the All, you can see that I am able to see posts from lemmy.ml even though I’m on lemmy.world

[–] Mountaineer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, but you would be seeing ALL posts from everywhere your instance knows about.

I kind of like the idea of being on lemmy.world, filtering to say aussie.zone and getting it to show me local.
Or being able to simply get a list of every community on another instance.

These are cool ideas.

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it does show feeds from other instances. Tick all rather than local

[–] Anoril@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, i mean not all, but local from other instances. I dont remember why i needed it, probably discussion of more specialised instances out there. Most down to earth example i can imagine now would probably be trying to find instance on your local language (other than english, ofc).

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are instances dedicated to other languages, but because they are new, and has not a lot of people, they won’t push at the top of your feed. The best thing for now is to help those instances grow by contributing to the instance and communities. As more activity sprouts, more and more specialized communities and instances will get pushed to the top.

As a start, you can select Hot or New rather than active and see if there are specialized regional instances. Or try directly searching for it.

If not start your own community in the language you desire. Bear in mind that lemmy only has 200k users. And most are probably from the US. So you’ll likely see more mainstream communities and in English.

If that’s still not enough, the best I can advise is to wait until it matures. The more mainstream it gets the more lesser known communities and regional instances can develop or start.

[–] Anoril@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, probably. Still hope it will be an option in the future. I think the biggest jump in popularity gonna heppen when there is gonna be more developed apps for browsing it, considering that some QoL problems could be fixed by those developers.

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m optimistic. So many apps are developing at an astonishing rate. Recall that third party apps offer better experience than official reddit. Given time, third party apps will do the same too.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think what would help would be a way to create a multilemmy feature like the multireddit one where you can include communities together.

cat@sopuli.xyz

cat@lemmy.ml

cat@beehaw.org

cat@lemmy.world

So long as they are all Federated with each other you could have a multilemmy feed for "cat"

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreeing that it's not a seamless transition in user experience from Reddit to Lemmy/kbin. But one thing that at least the instance that I'm on (kbin.social) makes easy is subscribing to various communities (or magazines, which is what they are called on kbin):

I go to the Magazines screen in kbin.social, type.in the general topic I'm interested in (in your example, cats). The search results in kbin.social bring me all of the magazines and communities that have cat in the name, and I subscribe to them all. (Meaning, I don't have to type out the full community address.)

Yes, a lot of it will be redundant and if I don't subscribe to specific communities I may miss some stuff. But I can say that now I have a ton pf.contwct that I'm interested in my "Subscribed" feed (similar to the home feed on Reddit).

[–] ewe@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno. Lemmy isn't all that weird outside the first little bit of choosing an instance and signing up for communities. Everything since that has felt extremely normal to me. Some more thought about that and a good instance onboarding workflow can be implemented, that seems like a solvable problem.

[–] torres@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I completely agree, I don't find it difficult at all. But I have already tried to recommend it to a couple of friends and just having to go through those first steps was enough for them not to want to use Lemmy.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy isn't weird at all. Now P2P platforms like secure scuttlebutt and aether, that's some weird stuff. I couldn't get them working at all (or maybe nobody is using these anymore). P2P is very confusing for me. I assume that a federated network is as confusing for many people as p2p social networks are confusing for me. I guess there will be someone out there who reads my comment and be like: "What? P2P networks are so simple, what don't you understand?" I guess people just have different amount of tolorance to being confused by complexity of something before they just give up. I couldn't figure out those P2P systems so I just give up.

[–] cousinofjah@twit.social 2 points 1 year ago

Keep Lemmy Weird

I wish that was the case. Privacy is barely a thing in the general public's eye. FOSS is a spec in the wind in comparison.

[–] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

WHAAT? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE MEEEEEMEES!!. SPEAK LOUDEERRR!